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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 00:11 »
Money is being made!
Choke me smoke the air, In this citrus sucking sunshine, I don't care you're not all there.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 07:34 »
Dancing mentioned this on the chat

Benson linked the info here is the original piece

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article1782604.ece

Birdsong will not be racing WT again this year

UCI points system FTW
Fignon - In my day, doping methods were derisory and the riders´exploits were massive.
For the last 15 years or so  it has been the other way rond: there is a huge number of ways in which riders can dope, and any exploits are derisory.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2012, 07:37 »
from the shout read from down to up  :P

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But the criteria is for the team not individual
 
bicing:
the lesson learned by the situation is that you can't not be the absolute top guy and talk about trades. you have to be top secret. the top guys like nibali, schlecks can talk about trades because the team depends on them for wins and exposure.
 
DinZ:
but that is how it works. they have to maintain criteria, one of which is sporting and based on points
 
just some guy:
buy a licence teams have certain critea they must keep
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DinZ:
i think points are fine just transfers do not work right now

DinZ:
how do you stop system where a bunch on european teams just hang on to those licences
 
DinZ:
but then how do teams like sky and greenedge get into the sport
 
just some guy:
I think the team should own a licence - points are meaningless 16 WT teams max
 
DinZ:
and not hard to implement
 
DinZ:
seems a way to fix some of the issues with it.
 
DinZ:
50% to team 50% to rider
 
DinZ:
uci point system should be 50 50 i reckon

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 07:38 »
the system is screwed if teams keep riders from riding WT events

or if you do not re sign then no WT events


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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 07:39 »
Also just seen this on CN - fits into a discussion on the weaknesses of the WT system http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-of-hangzhou-joins-worldtour-for-four-years
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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 10:27 »
CN on Birdsong

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radioshack-nissan-rules-out-worldtour-races-for-fuglsang

there should be mid season transfers - done before the TDF

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 16:04 »
CN on Birdsong

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radioshack-nissan-rules-out-worldtour-races-for-fuglsang

there should be mid season transfers - done before the TDF

...or at least a ban on Brunyeel for sheer stupidity.
Boo on the WorldTour. Boo on Brunyeel.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2012, 16:16 »
the system is screwed if teams keep riders from riding WT events

or if you do not re sign then no WT events
But Fugslang brought this upon himself. It's not cycling specific is this reprimanding by keeping them away from the matches/races. It's par for the course for a half arsed twat in a big football club, and it happened with a huge star like KP and Hampshire, when Pietersen was a twat and available for selection.

He could've been less of a whinging sook and go through the motions for the season if he wanted races and a shiny new saxo bank.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2012, 01:09 »
As long as he gets paid for the rest of the year there's no way he has any rights to complain. Fault of the system here, not RSNT.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 01:17 »
As JV mentioned, Fuglsang (how the hell do you spell that) admitted he was talking to other teams outside of transfer window. could be banned from racing altogether

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 10:37 »
I guess it's because he's not a star, although he should have kept quiet raced some WT events and gained some points for himself and new team. Shouldn't most have Saxo been suspended in 2010 when the Schlecks were forming their own team.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 11:03 »
LeMevel is unhappy about not riding the Tour after not riding the Giro - mentioned another team outside of Garmin

wonder if he riders WT or not - he is riding Poland but after ?

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2012, 12:38 »
Fuglsang is young and naive. Should have kept his mouth shut raced as many WT to get points to get a better deal elsewhere. Anyone with half a brain can see that RSNT has no future in cycling. What Sponsor is gonna want JB to be a DS/owner of a team after the details of USADA come out?

Hope he learnt his lesson. I hope others have also learnt from his mistake. Not happy at a team the last people you tell is the media. Tell them when you are in a new team in the new seaon racing ;)
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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2012, 13:10 »
I guess it's because he's not a star, although he should have kept quiet raced some WT events and gained some points for himself and new team. Shouldn't most have Saxo been suspended in 2010 when the Schlecks were forming their own team.

If he had waited until next week there'd be no problem.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2012, 15:37 »
If he had waited until next week there'd be no problem.

Cheers Tuart, I'd forgotten the 'transfer' window opens shortly, seems maybe the birdman had too.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2012, 08:36 »
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Professional Cycling Council and UCI Management Committee met in Maastricht

19.09.2012

The Professional Cycling Council (PCC) and UCI Management Committee met yesterday and today on the occasion of the UCI Road World Championships 2012 in the Limburg region.

For the last time since his nomination as President in 2001, Mr Vittorio Adorni presided the PCC meeting. Having reached the age of 74, in accordance with the statutes of the UCI, the 1968 World Champion will take his retirement. Congratulating Mr Adorni for his dedication in favour of cycling, UCI President Pat McQuaid proposed that he be appointed PCC Honorary President. This proposal was supported by the Council Members and ratified by the UCI Management Committee.

During the meeting, the PCC decided to create a working group to study the implications of hypothetically introducing a “salary cap” into team budgets, as well as training compensation fees. Further the PCC confirmed its determination to improve the quality of UCI WorldTour television production and race coverage.

In his opening speech of the Management Committee meeting, the UCI President, Mr Pat McQuaid reiterated the great success of all cycling events on the Olympic program: “The London Games were an extraordinary showcase for all disciplines of our sport, the absolutely exceptional visibility has undoubtedly contributed greatly to its worldwide promotion”.

The following World Championships were awarded by the UCI Management Committee:

Indoor Cycling 2014 : Brno (CZE)
MTB Marathon 2015 : Val Gardena (ITA)
Paracycling Road 2015 : Nottwil (SUI)
Road 2016 : Doha (QAT)

For the first time, the UCI World Championships will be organized in the Middle East. The UCI Sport and Technical Director, Mr Philippe Chevallier, expressed his satisfaction about the Management Committee decision: « The management of the Qatar candidature presented an extremely interesting project which incorporated  innovative solutions which allowed for the designing of a technically interesting course , we are greatly looking forward to working with them».

In  2013 the UCI BMX World Championships will take place in Auckland (NZL) from 24 au 28 July and the UCI Juniors Track World Championships will take place in Glasgow on 7 to 11 August.

The UWCT Finals will be held in 2013 in Trento (ITA) and in 2014 in Ljubljana (SLO).

Concerning the UCI Road World Championships 2014, the Management Committee decided to grant the organizers of the Ponferrada (ESP) event 30 days to  meet contractual commitments, after which time if these had not been met the event would be withdrawn from them.

The UCI Management Committee also approved the 2013 Road Calendar which will be available tomorrow on the website www.uci.ch


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From the UCI website.

So a salary cap - Vaughters gets his way - pretty sure Rihs and others will just do deals on the side anyway.

and a cap for Training fees - WTF how is are they going to do that and why would they ?

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2012, 15:52 »
http://inrng.com/2012/09/uci-financial-accounts-2011/

2011 UCI Financial Accounts

Some points highlighted:

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GCP remains a concern. Events like the Tour of Beijing mean more money flowing into the UCI coffers but the business was still draining money from the Pro Tour Reserve fund for a third year in a row. In effect GCP only in balance after taking money from the teams who, if given a vote, probably would not vote for this.

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The outlook for the UCI looks better especially as the settlement from the 2012 London Olympics should provide even greater income. Also because the UCI’s bio-passport is now an established anti-doping tool and not a potential legal liability that it was feared a few years ago and another risk has diminished now that the Swiss have pegged their franc to the Euro meaning less exchange rate hassle for now.

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But economic woes remain a risk for the sport and shrinking TV contracts, vanishing races and struggling pro teams can all cut revenue for the UCI.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2012, 17:20 »
The poorer the UCI gets the more potential there is for a breakaway league.

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2012, 17:22 »
The poorer the UCI gets the more potential there is for a breakaway league.
Agreed, problem is after all the plans being made I have not heard much from the breakaway league for a while now...

Biding their time... or struggling with unforseen difficulties?

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2012, 17:24 »
Agreed, problem is after all the plans being made I have not heard much from the breakaway league for a while now...

Biding their time... or struggling with unforseen difficulties?

Biding and refining

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Re: The Unofficial Bash The UCI Thread
« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2012, 06:57 »


http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12912/UCI-rules-out-cycling-truth-and-reconcilliation-commission-for-doping.aspx

you need and I mean need to do both

and you Pat need to resign and let that nice lady from Germany who you hate take ove and clean up your mess, sweeping under the argyle rug will not work this time Pat 

 

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