Mens Road Cycling - transfers and rumors 2012

ram · « **Reply #300 on:** August 08, 2012, 18:28 »

Quote from: leander10 on August 08, 2012, 17:37

And Team Europecar has saigne a 21 year old rider from Eritrea, Natnael Berhane.
He will be the second prof. rider for Eritrea, with Daniel Teklehaimanot (Orica GreenEdge).

Very good signing.

Mind, he's not the second Eritrean pro, Tewelde and Russom are also pros, just not in the European circuit yet.

Edited to add- so too Tesfay and Debesai, and I think Daniel Abraham rides for the Ethiopian professional team Marco Polo cycling.

DinZ · « **Reply #301 on:** August 08, 2012, 22:16 »

Thats great for berhane. Somebenefit from having europcar race in africa.

leander10 · « **Reply #302 on:** August 08, 2012, 23:38 »

Quote from: ram on August 08, 2012, 18:28

Very good signing.

Mind, he's not the second Eritrean pro, Tewelde and Russom are also pros, just not in the European circuit yet.

Edited to add- so too Tesfay and Debesai, and I think Daniel Abraham rides for the Ethiopian professional team Marco Polo cycling.

Ok, didn't know about those two

Maybe we will see them in det European cicuit on day.

DinZ · « **Reply #303 on:** August 08, 2012, 23:42 »

Quote from: leander10 on August 08, 2012, 23:38

Ok, didn't know about those two Maybe we will see them in det European cicuit on day.

well the Qhubeka boys should be in some slightly larger races next year as they are stepping up to Pro Conti

Fus87 · « **Reply #304 on:** August 09, 2012, 09:36 »

Great news for Berhane. It also puts to rest my slight concerns about why he didn't go to Qhubeka this year.

Daniel Abraham is Eritrean by name only, he's lived in the Netherlands practically all his life, and has ridden for the Dutch Marco Polo team for a couple of years. Marco Polo have always registered as Chinese, and now Ethiopian, but the management is almost exclusively Dutch.

The question of "pro or not pro" is a difficult one. Many riders on Continental teams are living as professional cyclists, however they don't all get paid as much as the guys on bigger teams. Does that make them pros? I think so.
But for the sake of simplicity, I consider only riders on WT and ProConti teams as "real" pros, and the others as semi-pros (not taking anything away from them). Possibly with the exception of cyclo-cross teams like Fidea or BKCP.

just some guy · « **Reply #305 on:** August 09, 2012, 11:18 »

Also if RaNT disappear I will predict Horner to BMC

just some guy · « **Reply #306 on:** August 09, 2012, 13:38 »

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/three-extend-with-euskaltel-euskadi] [url]http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/three-extend-with-euskaltel-euskadi [/url]Not sure this has been reported or not

just some guy · « **Reply #307 on:** August 10, 2012, 11:02 »

Johan Tschopp ,Gabriel Rasch, Kristof Goddaert to IAM racing apparently

scofie · « **Reply #308 on:** August 10, 2012, 16:51 »

Dim, heard anything about this?

Richard Keys‏@tSKeysandGray
Remember where you heard this 1st - Mark Cavendish will announce he's leaving Team Sky shortly - and he won't be alone.

Source = twitter

benotti69 · « **Reply #309 on:** August 10, 2012, 23:26 »

Quote from: scofie on August 10, 2012, 16:51

Dim, heard anything about this?

Richard Keys‏@tSKeysandGray
Remember where you heard this 1st - Mark Cavendish will announce he's leaving Team Sky shortly - and he won't be alone.

Source = twitter

Who else would be leaving? Eisel? Froome?

ram · « **Reply #310 on:** August 11, 2012, 01:01 »

Well, isn't Eisel like one of those soaps. Buy Cav get me too rider?

leander10 · « **Reply #311 on:** August 11, 2012, 14:15 »

Two new transefers,
Marco Kump from Adria Mobil to Team Saxo Bank
and Cyril Bessy from Saur-Sojasun to Cofidis

jobiwan · « **Reply #312 on:** August 11, 2012, 16:54 »

http://www.movistarteam.com/news/2012-8-11/capecchi-and-szmyd-join-the-team-in-2013

Dim · « **Reply #313 on:** August 11, 2012, 17:36 »

Quote from: scofie on August 10, 2012, 16:51

Dim, heard anything about this?

Richard Keys‏@tSKeysandGray
Remember where you heard this 1st - Mark Cavendish will announce he's leaving Team Sky shortly - and he won't be alone.

Source = twitter

My expectation is that Cav will be released and allowed to go elsewhere.

I was always opposed to the cav move from a sporting point of view, and i wrote a fairly lengthy blog in may 2011 saying that, that said it always made commercial sense.

as the world champion, british and available, especially in the run up to the olympics, sky had to either sign him, or look like they were making every effort to sign him, but it was also clear to most people that it was an odd fit tactically and would upset the gc team in the major stage races.

Both have served their purpose to each other, Cav got to ride on a team that would fully support him in his (doomed) quest to win gold at the olympics, sky got to employ the british world champion and the publicity that came from that.

Im not even convinced the intention was for it ever to be more than one year, all the drawn out contract negotiations, hot air about image rights, bike brand etc was just that. Interesting that Sky started negotiating the new pinarello contract months ago with no intention of ever swtiching to specialised.

I expect Cav to leave but it will be a mutual decision with a lock of back slapping going on. Sky laud Mark and tell him how much they wish him well and they didnt want to hold him back, Mark saying what a great team sky were to ride for and it was amazing to ride for a british team in the tour de france etc.

both get what they wanted for 2012, and both get what they want for 2013 onwards.

as for "heard it hear first" Keys is talking out of his arse.. its been rumoured for weeks.

Dim · « **Reply #314 on:** August 11, 2012, 17:48 »

One thing worth noting, Keys works for Talk Sport who in britain when it comes to rumours are referred to as "talk sh*te"

The Hitch · « **Reply #315 on:** August 11, 2012, 17:50 »

Quote from: jobiwan on August 11, 2012, 16:54

http://www.movistarteam.com/news/2012-8-11/capecchi-and-szmyd-join-the-team-in-2013

pff more of the same for movistar who already have about 11 riders of the Szmyd Cappechi type for the mountains

Though i hope maybe they let Szmyd have a go at leading the giro in what would have to be his final season at any sort of level.

Dim · « **Reply #316 on:** August 11, 2012, 18:21 »

Sky situation as it stands

ins

Confirmed:
None

Likely
Cataldo (Omega Quickstep)
Kiryienka (Movistar)

Rumoured
_____ ____ (Australian Semi Pro)
Voigt (Radioshack)
Tiernan Locke (Endura)
Sebastian Lander (Danish Semi Pro)

Long Shots
Renshaw (Rabobank)
Westra (Vaconsoliel)
Moreno Moser (Liquigas)

Staigaire 2012Davide Martinelli 100%

Outs

Confirmed
Lars Peter Nordhaug >Rabobank
David Appollonio > Ag2R

Rumoured
Barry (Spider Tech)

Riders Under Contract through 2013
Flecha (Vaconsoliel) 1yr remaining on contract
Hayman (Greenedge) 1yr remaining
Knees (New German Team) 1yr remaining
Froome (Astana) 2 Years remaining on Contract
Cavendish(Rabobank, Quickstep) 2 years remaining
Eisel (Rabobank, Quickstep) 2 years remaining

Out of contract
Jeremy Hun - Possible retirement
David Appollonio - Signs for Ag2r
Alex Dowsett - Expect to renew
Thomas Lofkvist - Leaving
Lars Peter Nordhaug - Moves to Rabobank
Micheal Rogers - Unknown
Michael Barry - Possibly leaving to join Spidertech
Xabier Zandio -

Sneekes · « **Reply #317 on:** August 11, 2012, 19:07 »

Quote from: The Hitch on August 11, 2012, 17:50

pff more of the same for movistar who already have about 11 riders of the Szmyd Cappechi type for the mountains

Though i hope maybe they let Szmyd have a go at leading the giro in what would have to be his final season at any sort of level.

That's 7 decent riders leaving Liquigas. Is this a cull of their mid-level riders in order to be able to afford Sagan (and possibly Moser) long-term?
And who is their second GC guy after Basso? Duggan? Caruso?

Dim · « **Reply #318 on:** August 11, 2012, 19:18 »

Quote from: Sneekes on August 11, 2012, 19:07

That's 7 decent riders leaving Liquigas. Is this a cull of their mid-level riders in order to be able to afford Sagan (and possibly Moser) long-term?
And who is their second GC guy after Basso? Duggan? Caruso?

hearing rumours that Basso is off, possible to Argos of all places. Think they have to trim down considerable, without liquigas money, and get a bunch of american riders to please cannondale

jobiwan · « **Reply #319 on:** August 11, 2012, 19:24 »

Perhaps Cannondale goes for Dombrowski or perhaps...Andy? Maybe? Surely he would please Cannondale and be marketable here in the States.

I'm just thinking out loud here, no info whatsoever! ;D

just some guy · « **Reply #320 on:** August 11, 2012, 21:23 »

Leaky leaving

Cannondale my guess pro conti next year

Sagan and moser as leaders - Oss is a massive loss

The Hitch · « **Reply #321 on:** August 11, 2012, 22:09 »

Kiriyenka to Sky? Now thats just cheating.

BYOP · « **Reply #322 on:** August 11, 2012, 23:12 »

Quote from: jobiwan on August 11, 2012, 19:24

Perhaps Cannondale goes for Dombrowski or perhaps...Andy? Maybe? Surely he would please Cannondale and be marketable here in the States.

I'm just thinking out loud here, no info whatsoever! ;D

Andy might go on a 1-2 year vacation.

The Hitch · « **Reply #323 on:** August 12, 2012, 01:31 »

Quote from: BYOP on August 11, 2012, 23:12

Andy might go on a 1-2 year vacation.

No, thats Frank

Fus87 · « **Reply #324 on:** August 12, 2012, 17:53 »

Quote from: Dim on August 11, 2012, 18:21

Sky situation as it stands

ins
Rumoured
Sebastian Lander (Danish Semi Pro)

Certainly a good signing if it becomes true. He can do a bit of everything (except high mountain climbing maybe), and is ready to step up on the big scene. :tu
Just don't mess up his Danish champion's jersey.

jobiwan · « **Reply #325 on:** August 13, 2012, 01:43 »

People discussing at CN that the Tour tracker guys evidently said Dombrowski to Sky.
Someone please tell me this isn't true.

just some guy · « **Reply #326 on:** August 13, 2012, 09:24 »

Bob Jungels also to Sky apparently - or they want him bad

also has this been reported Golden Shower to AGR2 ;D

( Hutarovich to AG2R ) also a rumor

Jamsque · « **Reply #327 on:** August 13, 2012, 11:46 »

Quote from: jobiwan on August 13, 2012, 01:43

People discussing at CN that the Tour tracker guys evidently said Dombrowski to Sky.
Someone please tell me this isn't true.

WOOP WOOP J-LO DOM-BRO HYPE TRAIN NEXT STOP THE YOOOOO KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!

Also Sky please sign Voigt for his last year as a pro it would be awesome

ram · « **Reply #328 on:** August 13, 2012, 13:17 »

Quote from: just some guy on August 13, 2012, 09:24

Bob Jungels also to Sky apparently - or they want him bad

Mint mint flipping mint. So mint that Wrigley's + reserve banks < that signing, wherever he goes

just some guy · « **Reply #329 on:** August 13, 2012, 13:38 »

Quote from: just some guy on August 13, 2012, 09:24

also has this been reported Golden Shower to AGR2 ;D

( Hutarovich to AG2R ) also a rumor

confirmed

http://www.cyclisme.ag2rlamondiale.fr/actualites/actualites-detail.asp?id=1271

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