Mens Road Cycling

ram · « **on:** July 28, 2012, 12:11 »

No, I'm not talking about your erections, not so desperate yet. I'm talking about your pick for the next generation of riders

No Moreno Mosers and similar likes, every blind man knows that they're locked in for a long time. And no Majka, I don't believe his hype ;D

My ~~sh*tlist~~ hitlist (which usually means that they'll crash, break a leg or retire to run a pub)-

Louis Meintjes- Saffers' best stage race hopeful, got a top TT and is a more than competent climber. All of 20, and on the Lotto young uns squad.

Eric Sheppard- I stick by this man, you don't just win a 10 day UCI stage race so young.

Mark O'Brien- Very early to say, and whether he'll be as good as Haas or van Hoff is to be seen, but he's found himself winning the first 3 NRS races. The step up can't be too far away.

Nikita Umerbekov- seems to be a good sprinter and not incompetent on the bumps either

Fabian Schnaidt- been following his results all year, and he's won sprints against Guardini, Gene and against U23 riders, and finished in the top 10 of the Pro Race Berlin. WT before long, but his climbing is just as bad as Guardini's.

Ruslan Tleubayev- hoping he's a bit of a late bloomer and can pick up to beat the Guardinis on the occasion rather than just trail him the way through to the finish

Youcef Reguigui- he'll never be a world beater, but he could be one of the top African riders in the coming years. 5th in the continentals and stage winner in both Faso and the Tour d'Algerie last year, and he backed it up this year with the Tour of Azerbaijan U23 (Azerbaijan kind) this year.

Natnael Berhane- didn't realise he was only 21, defo seems the next best Eritrean racer.
That's all the youngsters I know

Reinardt not on this list as he's already proven he's worth it.

Fus87 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2012, 17:21 »

I've been interested in African cycling for a while now, so that's my area of expertise.

Meintjes is definitely a talent for the years to come. U23 Worlds in Valkenburg are just his cup of tea. Discovered him last year during the Tour of SA, when he did a very good race for a first-year U23, and he's been going even better this year. Dominating the Cat. 1/2 races in SoCal, now showing his talent in Europe. He'll make his way.

Berhane - he's arguably even better than Teklehaimanot. Was a great moment cheering him at the Worlds last year, when he was driving the break. And after being caught, he still managed 28th place in the sprint, when most others would have been dropped for good. He can do just about everything (but ITT maybe, hasn't competed in a serious ITT yet) - sprints, hills, breaks. The perfect guy for African races, watch out for him too in Valkenburg.
Only one thing that makes me a bit skeptical about him hitting the big scene: He was presented as one of MTN's Eritrean guys, but was replaced by Abrha at the last moment for reasons unknown to me. That doesn't have to mean anything fishy, it just looks as if he might be happy enough in the small pond that is Africa. But hopefully I overinterpret this totally.

Reguigui - no, probably not a world beater. But a decent sprinter he will be. Europcar, FDJ, take your pick.

Other than that, there's Till Drobisch. Definitely the best Namibian U23 rider at the moment... but also pretty much the only one. ;D
Still a good lad, and already riding in Europe in his first senior year. Hopefully another Craven or Hoffmann in the making.

I also follow Estifanos Kebede. A good climber (he got a 1-minute lead on his breakaway companions on one ToSA stage, on a climb that wasn't overly long), but we'll have to see if he'll break through or if that was just a fluke. He's in a good place at Marco Polo though (so is Solomon Bitew), they have developed many good racers over the years.

Fetisoff · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2012, 17:25 »

Ilnur Zakarin - Itera Katusha. Man can time-trial, man can climb. Man's the next big Russian hope

ram · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2012, 10:50 »

Quote from: Fus87 on July 28, 2012, 17:21

I've been interested in African cycling for a while now, so that's my area of expertise.

Meintjes is definitely a talent for the years to come. U23 Worlds in Valkenburg are just his cup of tea. Discovered him last year during the Tour of SA, when he did a very good race for a first-year U23, and he's been going even better this year. Dominating the Cat. 1/2 races in SoCal, now showing his talent in Europe. He'll make his way.

Berhane - he's arguably even better than Teklehaimanot. Was a great moment cheering him at the Worlds last year, when he was driving the break. And after being caught, he still managed 28th place in the sprint, when most others would have been dropped for good. He can do just about everything (but ITT maybe, hasn't competed in a serious ITT yet) - sprints, hills, breaks. The perfect guy for African races, watch out for him too in Valkenburg.
Only one thing that makes me a bit skeptical about him hitting the big scene: He was presented as one of MTN's Eritrean guys, but was replaced by Abrha at the last moment for reasons unknown to me. That doesn't have to mean anything fishy, it just looks as if he might be happy enough in the small pond that is Africa. But hopefully I overinterpret this totally.

Reguigui - no, probably not a world beater. But a decent sprinter he will be. Europcar, FDJ, take your pick.

Other than that, there's Till Drobisch. Definitely the best Namibian U23 rider at the moment... but also pretty much the only one. ;D
Still a good lad, and already riding in Europe in his first senior year. Hopefully another Craven or Hoffmann in the making.

I also follow Estifanos Kebede. A good climber (he got a 1-minute lead on his breakaway companions on one ToSA stage, on a climb that wasn't overly long), but we'll have to see if he'll break through or if that was just a fluke. He's in a good place at Marco Polo though (so is Solomon Bitew), they have developed many good racers over the years.

Cheers, was looking forward to your post as I've only really watched Saffer racing for a year and a bit more. Will look at those names whenever possible.

DinZ · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2012, 11:49 »

The rabo youngsters look strong, but then they always do.
Van baarle been going well in sprints and olivier is a good climber, missed the crucial break in alsace but otherwise strong.

Other good rides from alsace while i remember, Pliuschin of course, living slightly under shadow of jungle bob at leopard but genuine talent. Also le boulch from auber was going well although he is 23 now and a team leader now so may be running out of chances to move up.

As fetisoff mentioned zakarin took 3rd on the climb and 1 st in tt in saturdays alsace double header

ram · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2012, 13:08 »

Aye, Jungle Bob is mint. Then there are the obvious two picks of Dombrowski and Aru, but they've already got a top reputation.

Arb · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2012, 16:28 »

Lutsenko and Kamyshev on Astana Conti.

just some guy · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2012, 18:50 »

I have 2 quite well knowish OZ boys for soonish

Edit see how we go now

lachlan morton

Born . DOB:2/1/1992

probably be Australia next GC hope - been around for awhile currently riding for JV´s development team

and

Calab Ewan

Born 11/7/1994

This kid could be anything sprinter scrapper 1 day classics track

DinZ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2012, 08:14 »

Quote from: just some guy on July 30, 2012, 18:50

I have 2 quite well knowish OZ boys for soonish

Edit see how we go now

lachlan morton

Born . DOB:2/1/1992

probably be Australia next GC hope - been around for awhile currently riding for JV´s development team

and

Calab Ewan

Born 11/7/1994

This kid could be anything sprinter scrapper 1 day classics track

I reckon caleb is definitely a very good chance of being a very fast sprinter. Has caught the eye of more than one big team and has connects here in nsw

DinZ · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2012, 08:16 »

Ram, did schnaidt have a stagiarie position at fdj last year. Was just looking something up and saw he rode paris correze for them. Wondering what happened there. Maybe just too far down pcking order in long list of speinters here

ram · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2012, 13:54 »

Nope, not as far as I know. In fact, I just checked and it was Fabien Schmidt and not Schnaidt who rode for FDJ last year.

ram · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2012, 14:20 »

About Caleb, he's a good un. Still very young, but a proper talent. Wonder what he'll be though, a crit specialist or a proper sprinter. Maybe both hopefully.

BYOP · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2012, 19:38 »

There's a youngish guy from Pinto, Madrid who's going to ride the ENECO tour and a few other races, watch out for him!

ram · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2012, 00:34 »

Cow free zone here, and he's tiny.

The Hitch · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2012, 01:46 »

Andrea Manfredi. Same guy who told sky about Henao reccomended them this guy.

Also what about Monsalve. 23 now so one might say he hasnt really made it, or is he just being held back for some sort of push in the future.

Arb · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2012, 02:55 »

Perhaps the more interesting question - who is the next Novikov?

Fus87 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 27, 2012, 09:11 »

Let me revive this thread to add some observations from the Tour of Denmark/Post Danmark Rundt:
Sebastian Lander definitely is someone for this list. He's the current Danish champion, won on the toughest route in recent years, against the crème de la crème of Saxo Bank's WT riders. That alone should make people interested. Now, he's had a very decent PDR, including a breakaway on the final stage, where he dropped his companion when the peloton came closer and continued on for another two laps.

Lander's breakaway companion was Kristian Haugaard. One month older than Lander even, so not quite his level of talent, as I've only noticed him now. But he had a very good race too, 16th on the Vejle stage (including 3 laps of the 20% Kiddesvej), top-30 in the ITT, and that breakaway on the final stage yesterday.
That's not yet enough for a pro contract. But I think it will be enough for him to get some offers from the big Danish continental teams - Glud & Marstrand, I'm looking at you.

froome19 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 27, 2012, 15:22 »

Quote from: The Arbiter on August 01, 2012, 02:55

Perhaps the more interesting question - who is the next Novikov?

There is still hope...
He has been having some strange problems this season, but may be improving....

Though it may be too late for my CQ team....

ram · « **Reply #18 on:** December 29, 2012, 09:42 »

http://inrng.com/2012/12/12-riders-to-watch-2013/

and that's how to make an uninspiring list of whom to watch. Not even gambling among the younger lot, FFS.

froome19 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2013, 00:42 »

Simon Yates.

Dim · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:12 »

Quote from: ram on December 29, 2012, 09:42

http://inrng.com/2012/12/12-riders-to-watch-2013/

and that's how to make an uninspiring list of whom to watch. Not even gambling among the younger lot, FFS.

yeh, bit dissapointing. inrng has a big following, could have put some really interesting names out there, but no, Chris Froome and Nibali.. jeez..

The Hitch · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:17 »

Not 1 Colombian on that list. Cant take it seriously.

Its much more flipping interesting how the previous Tour Lav winner goes leading a team at the giro than how the guy who scraped last years edition by 1 second because of a well taken corner, goes in a neo pro year as part of a rag tag AG2R side at the 13 hills tournament.

Dim · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:22 »

Going with the obvious, as its fairly late, but im surprised inrrng didnt mention either Geraint Thomas or Sagan.

Thomas, promised a lot, looked good in the classics, the roubaix stage of the tour, one good day in the mountains, but a year out, now hes getting to that age where he can prove himself, can he live up to it.
Sagan, 1 hit wonder, or can he start carving out a real dynasty and be the next big thing that so many have promised but failed to delivery.
Henao, really excited about this kid, shown good early season form but looks to be if anything riding within himself, I got a feeling if he explodes and the shackles are let off he could be huge
EBH, will it finally be the year that he lives up to the promise?
Phillipe Gilbert/Fabian Cancellara - both had an annus horribilis in 2012, can they come back to form, that for me is going to be fascinating, will we see the gilbert and fabian of old.

And then theres the neo pros...

The Hitch · « **Reply #23 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:31 »

Quote from: Dim on February 25, 2013, 01:22

Going with the obvious, as its fairly late, but im surprised inrrng didnt mention either Geraint Thomas or Sagan.

Im surprised they didnt mention Contador, Cancellara Gilbert and in particular Andy Schleck. afterall it seemed like it was just a list of 10 random riders ranging from a Tour de France and World Champion to guys with a lifetime total of no more than 200 cq points to their name.

Andy on the other hand is coming back from his lost year and how his progress goes is far bigger than all those riders. Similar situation for Gilbert and Cancellara who also had lost years (more or less).

Meanwhile they chose a bunch of guys who are almost certain to perform this season and in the case of Chav and Nibali about as well as they performed last season adn the season before and the season before.

Really dont have a clue what Nibali is doing on that list. 2nd level gt rider who has been second level gt rider for the last 5 years going for another gt podium. Will he finish 2nd or 3rd in the giro, wow. Bottom of my list it would be. Unless they think his darkside programme will be reaching a whole new level under Vino.

sublimit · « **Reply #24 on:** February 25, 2013, 14:11 »

Luke Rowe seems to have something. Josh Edmondson, Nathan Haas also.

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