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Tour de France Stage 17:  Bagnères-de-Luchon - Peyragudes 143.5km

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Intermediate Sprint, this will be most likely taken by one of the riders in the break:


Climbs:
•   Km 27.5 - Col de Menté (1 349m)9.3 kilometre-long climb at 9.1% - category 1
•   Km 55.5 - Col des Ares (797 m)6 kilometre-long climb at 5.3% - category 2
•   Km 76.0 - Côte de Burs1.2 kilometre-long climb at 7.6% - category 3
•   Km 111.5 - Port de Bales (1 755 m)11.7 kilometre-long climb at 7.7% - category H
•   Km 142.5 - Peyragudes15.4 kilometre-long climb at 5.1% - category 1







Weather: http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Peyragudes/6day/top
There will be clear skys at Peyragues yet the temperature will be at around 12 degrees Celsius so nothing of concern for riders or fans.


Prior to the Tour there were insurmountable expectations on Team Sky and specifically their leader; Bradley Wiggins. Wiggins has scaled unprecedented heights for a modern day British cyclist in his pursuit of the yellow jersey. The two most prestigious French races; Paris Nice and the Criterium du Dauphine fell to the British rider and likewise the Tour of Romandie. Throughout these races he has constantly been escorted by loyal and devoted domestiques who were not willing to give any quarter in there efforts to deliver Wiggins to the TT in the optimum general classification position.

For many of the outsiders looking in, Wiggins’ rise has been startling; a track racer who had never previously shown any capabilities in the mountains burst onto the Stage racing scene in the 2009 Tour even if originally the performance was overshadowed by the Astana team and its infighting. Then in 2010 Team Sky was set up with a seemingly ludicrous mission statement “To win the Tour with a British rider within 5 years” the likely and in fact lone candidate was Wiggins but not many considered him capable of such. Most merely scoffed at the concept and were content to witness Alberto Contador dominating the Tour until Brailsford’s fateful deadline would come to pass.

Indeed 2 years of disappointment followed for Wiggins in 2010 he performed dismally failing to attain his form of 2009 and in 2011 he was cruely robbed of an opportunity to shine as he crashed out and broke his collarbone before the race had even entered the high mountains. Yet on the way he had not sat idle but rather had gained the necessary experience required to win the Tour, coming 3rd in Paris Nice and felling all opponents on his way to the first of his two Dauphine victories. Yet it was the incentive of proving his worth that truly provided Wiggins with the confidence he has so dutifully displayed the 16 Stages, it was the incentive of winning a world championship medal in the TT which made him race the Vuelta where he finished 3rd confirming his ability as a Grand Tour contender subsequently Wiggins achieved his goal by winning a silver in the world championships beating the previously invincible Fabian Cancellara in the process.

Yet standing between Wiggins and this remarkable feat is the figure of Vincenzo Nibali who took some time to establish himself on the Grand Tour scene after featuring yet not threatening at the Tour and Giro, yet proclaimed himself in fine style when he won the Vuelta taking adavantage of Igor Anton crashing out as he will be seeking to take advantage of Contador and Schleck’s misfortune and capitalising on his opportunity by winning the Tour, considering he may very well be eclipsed by the other two in years to come.

Cadel Evans is another threat to Wiggins’s jersey but in all probability he is more of an honorary threat, due to his desperate commitment to defend his Tour crown, than the real deal.

A more realistic threat is that of Wiggins’s team mate Chris Froome; Kenyan by birth and South African by trade he now races for Team Sky under a British licence. He has stated he will continue to work in support of Wiggins but will defend Team Sky’s integrity if need be. Like Nibali his chances of Tour glory will be limited once Contador and Schleck have returned so his undying loyalty to Wiggins may not be assured as it seems at first glance.



Preview

The yellow jersey hopefuls, the courageous warriors who have been subservient up till now will not be content with a mere podium; they desperately want the yellow jersey along with all its prestige and they will fight nail and tooth to accomplish the impossible. Wiggins undoubted supremacy in the TT means that they have no other choice but to attack on this stage.

Wiggins handled their previous brave but feeble attempts with a cool air of superiority and confidence but with his ultimate goal; the goal which has pooled so much of his effort into, just amongst the clouds on the horizon, so very very close to being made into fruition, he may lose that cool which has been his trademark over the past season. Any attempts at bluff, con or deception will be discarded as this stage will be raced a frantic pace, a pace which will leave only the strongest standing, only the riders who are capable or delving deep inside for that inner drive which will inspire them to aspire for greatness and cycling immortality, a pace akin to that fateful stage of the Galibier a mere 12 months ago.

There will be no stone left unturned for the challengers as they desperately seek the ultimate prize in the sport, the race which is not just a victory but a legacy; no avenue of possibility will be left unexplored, no likely event unconsidered as the climbers focus any remaining vestiges of energy on breaking Wiggins’s interminable stranglehold on the yellow jersey. As Andy Schleck displayed in such magnificent fashion last year a seemingly hopeless position unlocks the true essence of the Tour.

What can be assured it that this stage will be a cracker, a stage which will leave a true legacy, a stage of grandeur yet certain pain and sorrow. But of course we can not forget that everything will be not determined by mere previews but rather by the riders as of course it is the “riders who make the race”.


Scenario
stage presents an array of possibilities for the likes of VDB, Nibbles and Rolland amongst others. This stage may very well be waged on two levels; those going for the stage and those going for the overall.

These two groups may come into collision if the stage turns out to be the fast paced affair it is predicted to be as any attacks by climbers who are out of contention such as Dan Martin will be brought back as favourites like Nibali attempt to shake off Sky with a vicious tempo.

The stage itself features the Col de Mente first up, a climb which featuresa constant gradient which surpasses most if not all Pyrenean climbs. It is also the sight of Luis Ocana’s fateful crash in 1971 when he had Eddy Merkx on the brink. Unfortunately the climb most likely will only be a factor for those attempting to get in the day’s break, yet even so it will surely sap the peloton’s waning strength. Long range attacks from stage hopefuls such as Pierre Rolland are a slight possibility but the Mente seems to be too far out for the 5 prominent favourites to truly make any discernible moves.

There will then be a brief lull in proceedings most likely, and the break will be allowed to establish a sizeablea advantage. This may alter if Liquigas or BMC decide to take up the pace making but in all likelihood they will prefer to keep their ammunition dry in preparation for the oncoming climbs. The Col de Ares and the Col de Burs both then follow yet both of them are minor climbs which may provide the launch pad for additional attacks out of the peloton but in all likelihood the action will be limited.

Then around 95km in the racing will certainly start to get a bit more heated…. This is the point where the Port de Bales a mountain of an average gradient of 7.7% and 11.7km long will start and with it will be come the opportunity to really ramp up the tempo of the race and the opportunity for the GC contenders to have one last desperate and likely doomed to fail attempt at cracking Wiggins. Yet they will certainly try and with the summit of the climb just over 15km from the start of the final climb it will be gung ho all the way to the finish and anyone who does crack on the climb will find it extremely hard if not impossible to latch back on before the final climb, so anyone who is dropped on the Bales may very well end up losing significant chunks time.

The Bales comes with some heavy gradients towards the beginning and towards the end but there is generally a steady but tough gradient throughout which would vindicate the 7.7% average.  It is the ideal climb to launch an attack if a rider is feeling strong and after Nibali and Van Den Broeck’s display on La Toussuire you get the feeling that they will attempt such a repeat on this climb. The descent is very scenic yet very technical as I am sure Andy Schleck will testify as that is where he primarily lost the Tour in 2010. If Nibali, Rolland and Van Den Broeck have been successful in shaking Sky from their tails then they may very well be capable of building an advantage on the descent primarily Nibali who is one of the best descenders in the modern day peloton, this really and truly depends on who has been shed I the selection if Michael Rogers is still there then he may very well pull the race back together but if it is left to Froome, who has not been convincing so far, to work on the descents then Nibali may be able to amass a relatively sizeable advantage.

The final climb is Peyragudes but in fact it is two climbs as it is preceded by the Col de Peyresourde which was climbed yesterday. The two climbs are separated by a very brief descent even though unfortunately that does skew the gradient. The Peyresourde is 9.5km at 6.7% and will certainly create a selection especially considering that the rider’s legs will be weary from their previous efforts on the Port de Bales. What would have happened before the climb is anyone’s guess but it is certain that the pain will be dished out on this climb and this indeed may be the prime time for Chris Froome to shine if permitted to by his ear piece. If Nibali, Evans and VDB are still there they may see it as an opportunity for them to attack, but so far in this Tour no of them have been capable of distancing the Sky duo for a prolonged amount of time and it is hard to see that changing. More likely Froome will tempo ride up the climb and then accelerate for the win, if the break has not managed to stay away.

The descent of around 2kms will also mix things up as it will provide riders who are struggling with valuable respite though it will provide ample opportunity for riders to catch back on after having been dropped. Nibali may try something here is he still has the legs but the descent is all too short before the Peyragudes ,which is being used for the first time as a Tour stage finish, starts though it is only 4km long it is relatively tough with a constant gradient of 7.3% and after 140km of racing it will certainly not be easy.

In terms of the King of the Mountains competition, this stage will certainly be defining with the Mente which is likely to be taken by a rider in the break giving 10 points whilst the two climbs after give a mere total of 3 points. It is the Bales though which may define the competition as it will provide 20 points to the first over its summit. This may very well be one of the riders in the break who is still free and if one of those riders happens to be Rolland, Voeckler or Kessiakoff then then may very well seal the competition. The final climb with it s double points will also offer 20 points and so this may very well be taken by Chris Froome who may then place himself in a commanding position in the competition, but indeed it seems as if this classification may be decided by whether the race will explode prior to the Bales or not as if so then the break may be reeled in already and the favourites will be able to take the points for that climb and the final climb leaving Froome or another favourite rather than a breakaway rider with the jersey.

The white jersey may also be decided with Tejay Van Garderen needing to put in a performance akin to the one he promised at La Toussuire if he wants to defend his jersey from the newfound climbing prowess of Thibau Pinot.



Start Town:

The town of Luchon or Bagnares Luchon has hosted the race a staggering 51 times…
But before the info comes a taste of what the riders will missing out on:



The fascinating town of  Bagnères-de-Luchon is located 87 m. S.S.W. of Toulouse, at the end of a branch line of the Southern railway from Montréjeau. The town is situated at the foot of the central Pyrenees in a beautiful valley at the confluence of the One and the Pique.

It has a staggering 2,700 inhabitants and it is the head of the canton of Haute-Garonne.

The feature which Luchon is most famous for is not contrary to popular belief its Youtube video but rather its thermal springs such as this one.



The spring above is particularly famous for being the 3rd one I found on google images. In all seriousness though there are 48 of them which also happens to be the race number of the great Simone Stortoni so expect him to make an impression on this stage if he happens to have survived up till then. The temperature of these springs vary from 62 to 150 degrees farenheit, the former being the number of the unfortunate Tom Danielson whilst the latter being a number away from Robert Gesink himself, an omen? Very Possibly…

Of course the thing which really makes Luchon stand out is not the action which occurs within the springs (see clip) but rather its proximity to some truly legendary climbs such as Superbagnères, Col de Peyresourde, Port de Balès, Col de Menté, Col du Portillon and the Col de Portet d'Aspet

It was last used  by the Tour in 2010 when Voeckler won the ensuing stage.



It also happens to be a sister city of the English town Harrogate which coincidentally or in fact not is also a spa town and is famous throughout the West riding of Yorkshire.

Here is a display of the magnificent beauty on show in Bagnares Luchon:
This one emphasises the tranquil nature of the town, unfortunately it will be disrupted by the Tour.





A picture of the Tour on its way too Luchon a while back


The main market place for those riders who may be sick of the guidelines they are required to follow by their team managers.



The most famous stage start from Luchon was in 1969 when the vernerable Eddy Merck set out on a 140km attack over the Tourmalet and Abisque amongst other climbs and he then ended the stage with almost 8 minutes over his rivals. Yet there have been some other great winners who have departed from Luchon and gone on to win including Binda, Robic, Koblet, Poulidor, Fuente, and Ocana. The Route de Sud has had finishes in Luchon most recently in 2009.

Facilities: Luchon has got a supremely kept golf course, it also has an airfield for gliding for all those tourists who don’t enjoy the springs all that much or who don’t have partners. There are also tennis courts and tandem paragliding whilst mountain biking is widely used.

Here is the golf course as seen from the 9th Green it is certainly a course of beauty as is the entire town.
Picture too large will try to get another


Luchon History: Most of it is based around the Springs which is of course the basis to the town’s prominence.
In the XVIII century, Jacques BARRAU, consul of the town, submitted to Antoine MEGRET, Baron d’ETIGNY the superintendant of the province his project to revive the fortunes of Luchon. In 1759, the Baron D’ETIGNY visited the city and fell under its charm. He constructed a grand and elegant building to house the Thermal baths, and a new road, the Allée d’Etigny, to connect the Thermal baths to the town.
   
In 1763, the notoriety of Luchon is supported thanks to the arrival of the DUKE OF RICHELIEU who promoted Luchon at the court of Versailles.
In 1848, the establishment Chambert, name of its creator, was built on the remainders of the Roman Thermal baths.

In 1867, the Prince Imperial, son of Napoleon III and Empress Eugenie stayed in Luchon to experience the Thermal baths where a small wooden building was erected and reserved for them.

The reputation of Luchon was thus made and the Thermal baths of Luchon developed

In 1929 the Vaporarium, a natural hamman, is born, revealing 1200 meters of sulphuretted galleries whose curves in the rock were conceived and used by the Romans.

In 1954, the Pavilion Prince Imperial was built in replacement of a small wooden building and is now used as the Pavilion for the refreshment bars.

In 1969, Vaporarium, unique in Europe, is further developed with the construction of the current building which was modernized in 2010 with a total restoration.

The Thermal baths of Luchon have not ceased evolving with the reorganization and the restoration of the services of care, developments in therapeutic technologies and the creation of the “Luchon Forme et Bien Etre” a centre for health and wellbeing.

Recent drillings have made it possible to collect the thermal springs from deep in the ground thus preserving the constant purity of this 14.000 years old water.

After twenty centuries of history, Luchon is today as always the place that the Greek geographer STRABON decreed, the source of “excellent water”.

In the XVIII century, Jacques BARRAU, consul of the town, submitted to Antoine MEGRET, Baron d’ETIGNY the superintendant of the province his project to revive the fortunes of Luchon. In 1759, the Baron D’ETIGNY visited the city and fell under its charm. He constructed a grand and elegant building to house the Thermal baths, and a new road, the Allée d’Etigny, to connect the Thermal baths to the town.

Here is a picture of the Allée d’Etigny in all its glory:





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Finish Town:

Peyragudes

As the majority of Tour mountain stage finishes are; Peyragudes is a ski resort. Furthermore this is in fact the first time that the climb is being used as a finish in the Tour. Yet it was used for the as a mountain time trial in the Route de Sud which was won by David Moncoutie Peyragudes is located in the Hautes-Pyrenees. The riders will go up it using the new road which has just been built which is used for sightseeing by tourists. The Tour has gone over the Peyresourde the climb neighbouring Peyragudes countless numbers of time (in fact 61 the same number as Ryder Hesjedal lets hope that isn’t another bad omen) the Tour has never gone over Peyragudes.



Here are the results of that finish:
•   1. David Moncoutie (Fra), Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne, at 33:07
•   2. Alexandre Geniez (Fra), Skil-Shimano, at 0:10
•   3. Fortunato Baliani (Ita), Miche-Silver Cross-Selle Italia, at 0:31
•   4. Przemyslaw Niemiec (Pol), Miche-Silver Cross-Selle Italia, at 0:39
•   5. Pasquale Muto (Ita), Miche-Silver Cross-Selle Italia, at 0:41
•   6. John Gadret (Fra), Ag2R La Mondiale, at 1:03
•   7. Damien Monier (Fra), Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne, at 1:23
•   8. Biel Kadri (Fra), Ag2R La Mondiale, at 1:23
•   9. Rein Taaramae (Est), Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne, at 1:38
•   10. Johann Tschopp (Sui), Bbox Bouygues Telecom, at 1:40
Moncoutie grabbed the leader’s jersey on this stage and went on to eventually win the overall.

Scenery:
As it is located in the Pyrenees it is obvious that Peyragudes will have a vast and spectacular array of scenery which the Eurosport commentators can revel in.

The link takes you to a 360 Tour of Peyragudes where you can witness its stunning scenery.
http://www.enterview.fr/vallee/louron.htm


Here is a video of the Resort when its winter skiing and snow events were taking place:
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Even though Peyragudes may not be covered in snow when the Tour rolls in here are some breathtaking pictures of it when there is snow on the ground




Yet Peyragudes is not only limited to the snow and skiing of course only takes up part of the year, the rest is taken up by a variety of different activities.

Taking the cable cars to witness the magnificent views of the Pyrenees is a great outing for all tourists visiting the resort even in the summer.


To fully sample the Pyrenees and Peyragudes and its surrounding area properly you need to witness it by air whilst that can be achieved by air some people like to attempt more conventional methods.


Some people enjoy the feel of the ground more than that of endless air and so they prefer to hike across the mountains ranges, a bit daft but nevertheless it still provides the same wonderful and scenic view.


And yet even if some find the mountains to cumbersome to travail be foot they can always resort to the true spirit of Peyragudes which lies in Cycling and get on a mountains bike.


Here is a map of Peyragudes and the surrounding area, including the route which the riders will take which is via the Peyresourde as can be seen towards the bottom left.


Some History about the resort:

Peyragudes may not have made big headlines itself but it may have as the savage beauty of the Peyresourde ski station doubled for an arms bazaar close to the Russian border in the pre-title sequence of the James Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies. The resort name itself is a contraction of the villages of les Agudes and Peyresourde.

.And finally one photo just for luck.



Route:
The first site we will witness after leaving Luchon will be Castle of Cierp Gaude.
Here is a picture of the castle in all its magnificent glory, that it is more of a big house is irrelevant when it is told that it was built in 1591 and is the biggest building for a 50 mile radius…


We then have the village of St Beat which is also has a castle even if this castle happens to be a bit more grand so much so that it comes with a clock and dates back to the 12th century where it was not made but rather enlarged by King Henry IV who was not capable of accessing it otherwise with or without his entourage.


The riders then come to the Saint Pe’d Ardet which has an 11th century church pictured here as its main feaure, with recycled Roman stones which seems utterly pointless unless you are religious and that is probably because it is utterly pointless unless you are religious.

Then comes the magnificent rural village of Labroquere which coincidentally has a castle but as we already have seen one back in St Beat which was older there is not much point in looking at this 14th century one so I will post a picture of a river instead.


We then arrive at the town of Mauleon-Barousse which is famous for its castle as well which is currently drawing with the St Beat one after being built in the 11th century, yet there has been some controversy as it was originally just a pile of wood before it was redone Kind Edward the I. This one will certainly be one for the dubious castles committee to deliberate on.


The next village on the agenda will certainly not be winning any Castle prized as its own can be best summed up when displayed in all its magnificent glory



This one will certainly not get it  past the dubious castles committee even if the inhabitants of Mayregne claim it is one built in the 15th century by…someone.

Then there is the supposedly beautiful village of Genos which is so random that you cant find it at all on the web or even on street finder for that matter has two monuments the beautiful St Roch church and the 12th century Notre-Dame du Bien chapel on the village heights. If one spots it on TV then well I may believe that it is not just a figment of the ASO website’s imagination, but until then…

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Mountain Passes:

•   Km 27.5 - Col de Menté (1 349m)9.3 kilometre-long climb at 9.1% - category 1

The stage has 3 categorised climbs, all of them being either category 1 or above. The final two are the ones which are going to decide the race but the first one the is nevertheless a climb which is steeped in Tour history even if it is not that well known.
The climb will be climbed from the shorter side – the St Beat side- which at first glance is easier but in fact it is a staggering 9.1% which is hard work when compared to the sedate 6.6% on the Pont de l’Oule side. The steepest sections on the St Beat side in several places rise above 11%, which is very possibly as hard as anything we are going to see this Tour. That the Tour will be climbing it within the first 20km of the stage is a disappointment but at the same time it means that we may even get to witness some action in the early stages in what is going to be a terrific stage if the general contenders decide to go for it big time on these slopes. Though that is doubtful it is likely we will see the break form on this climb and hopefully this will ensure the climb does not become totally redundant.






Here are some stats of the climb: Average: 9.1 %
Length: 9.3 km
Height start: 500 m
Height top: 1349 m
Gradient: 849 m


The make up of the climb itself is basically a constant steep gradient all the way up, with ramps of 10.3km at the bottom and even steeper in the final couple of hundred metres, yet in general the gradient does not vary all too much, keeping to the ridiculous 9% gradient which will surely split the peloton and leave us with a decisive break of the day.  The Mente is also infamous as the climb on which Luis Ocana who was threatening Eddy Merckx’s crown crashed out in the 1971 Tour de France.




•   Km 55.5 - Col des Ares (797 m)6 kilometre-long climb at 5.3% - category 2

The comes the Col des Ares which is a category 2 climb and will mainly be used as an opportunity for the KOM challengers in the break, the likes of Frederik Kessiakoff and Thomas Voeckler, to take some much needed points. It has been raced a number of the times in the Tour but never as a summit finish, yet many illustrious riders have led over the top of the climb as they attempted to win the stage and in many cases seize the yellow jersey.
Here are the stats for the entirety of the climb, the last 0.7km of which are not being raced:

Average: 4.6 %
Length: 6.7 km
Height start: 487 m
Height top: 797 m
Gradient: 310 m

The climb itself should not pose any problems unless you happen to be a sprinter or Denis Menchov and it has a very steady yet very low gradient throughout the climb, at this stage in the stage when the favourites will be letting the climb stretch out their lead and resting their legs for attacks on the more prominent climbs which are yet to come.




•   Km 76.0 - Côte de Burs 1.2 kilometre-long climb at 7.6% - category 3

Then comes the Cote de Burs which is a category 3 and will certainly not cause any problems considering that it is a Category 3 climb, if Menchov has caught back on though he will be probably be dropped and now would be a good time for the likes of Nicolas Roche to attack and get a good lead approaching the Port de Bales

Average 7.1%
Distance: 1.74 km
Start height: 475 m
Top elevation: 600 m
Elevation: 125 m


Km 111.5 - Port de Bales (1 755 m)11.7 kilometre-long climb at 7.7% - category H

Then comes Port de Bales… a mythical Pyrenees climb it was raced as recently as 2010 when the young challenger from Luxembourg in brazen confidence launched a vicious attack on the reigning champion from Spain. The young colt galloped away in unbridled excitement, yet he then stopped in horror as his stirrup came lose. The thoroughbred from the South coast was a canny competitor and in mock surprise he bolted off to a sigh of relief from the bookies, whilst the young colt looked on helplessly effectively crippled and unable to retaliate.

 2010 was actually the 2nd time the Tour has crossed the climb as it was climbed for the first time in 2007 when it was Kim Kirrchen who crested the summit first, whilst in 2010 it was Voeckler who went over the climb first and went on to win the stage. I would not be all to surprised if he repeats his feat this Tour considering the form he has been in and his current lethal nature when in breakaways.
Pics of those climbs:


Year Stage   Categor Start       Finish                       Leader at the summit
   
2010   15   HC   Pamiers   Bagnères-de-Luchon    Thomas Voeckler (FRA)
2007   15   HC   Foix   Loudenvielle                            Kim Kirchen (LUX)




Full climb stats:

Average: 6.3 %
Length: 18.87 km
Height start: 570 m
Height top: 1755 m
Gradient: 1185 m




•   Km 142.5 - Peyragudes 15.4 kilometre-long climb at 5.1% - category 1

This is in fact the first time that this climb has featured in the Tour and it is in fact two climbs which are joined together. The fact that there is a slight decent for 3km or is the explanation for the relatively low gradient and indeed without that descent the gradient would be considerable higher.

The climb which in fact makes up the bulk of this climb is in fact the Col de Peyresourde which has been climbed previously in the Tour and it is certainly a testing time as today's ascent will be attribute when the 3 strongest in the race were the ones who came out on top as others such as Cadel Evans faultered. The Peyragudes is something of an unknown quantity as it has never been raced before and it is a short climb of only 3 kms and whilst the respite from the previous climb will be gratefully taken it will nevertheless result in the strongest riders coming to the fore.



   


Yellow Jersey Contenders:
BradleyWiggins:


Vincenzo Nibali:


Cadel Evans:


Jurgen Van den Broeck:


Chris Froome:


Stage Contenders: Pierre Rolland, Thibau Pinot, Bradley Wiggins, Chris Froome, Cadel Evans, Vincenzo Nibali, Jurgen Van den Broeck, Janez Brajkovic, Tejay Van Garderen, Denis Menchov,

Outsiders: Dan Martin, Rui Costa, Jerome Coppel, Juan Jose Cobo, Alejandro Valverde, Chris Horner, Chris Anker Sorensen, Nicolas Roche, Andreas Kloden, Peter Velits Haimar Zubeldia, Michele Scarponi, Jelle Vanendert and of course Michael Rogers, Richie Porte, Christian Knees, Peter Sagan, Philip Gilbert and of course



 "Short (143.5 km) but tough! We designed a Pyrenean counterpart to the Alpine stage between Albertville and La Toussuire. But now that we are a mere three days from the finish, if the general classification has not been decided yet this will be the last chance for climbers to build a buffer. There will also be loads of points up for grabs for the mountains classification... The course offers no respite. The first climb is the Col de Menté, famous since 1971, which will be followed by the Col des Ares and the Port de Balès. This will be the first time that the finish is decided on the Plateau de Peyragudes, a ski resort in the Hautes-Pyrénées." Jean Francois Peschaux

 "With the final time trial looming, this is the very last chance for some riders to gain some time on their rivals. It is quite a short distance so there’ll be a lot of fireworks and the last climb is sure to be an absolutely huge showdown." Allan Peiper
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GC:

1 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 74:15:32
2   Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling   0:02:05   
3   Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale   0:02:23   
4   Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto Belisol Team   0:05:46   
5   Haimar Zubeldia Agirre (Spa) RadioShack-Nissan   0:07:13   
6   Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team   0:07:55   
7   Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team   0:08:06   
8   Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Astana Pro Team   0:09:09   
9   Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar   0:10:10   
10   Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat   0:11:43   
11   Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale   0:11:47   
12   Andreas Klöden (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan   0:13:14   
13   Christopher Horner (USA) RadioShack-Nissan   0:13:39   
14   Chris Anker Sörensen (Den) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank   0:14:43   
15   Jerome Coppel (Fra) Saur - Sojasun   0:20:12   
16   Denis Menchov (Rus) Katusha Team   0:21:06

KOM:



1 Thomas Voeckler (Fra) Team Europcar 107 pts
2   Fredrik Kessiakoff (Swe) Astana Pro Team   103   
3   Chris Anker Sörensen (Den) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank   77   
4   Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar   55   
5   Brice Feillu (Fra) Saur - Sojasun   38   
6   Daniel Martin (Irl) Garmin - Sharp   34   
7   Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD   33   
8   Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling   32   
9   Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat   32   
10   Jens Voigt (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan   31

Points:



1 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale 356 pts
2   André Greipel (Ger) Lotto Belisol Team   254   
3   Matthew Harley Goss (Aus) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team   203   
4   Mark Cavendish (GBr) Sky Procycling   130   
5   Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Sky Procycling   127   
6   Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling   109   
7   Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team   100   
8   Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling   91   
9   Thomas Voeckler (Fra) Team Europcar   88   
10   Daryl Impey (RSA) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team   84


Young Riders:



1 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 74:23:27
2   Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat   0:03:48   
3   Steven Kruijswijk (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team   0:45:26
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Stage 3 TOB just for the sake

You realize if you want more room you can fit it into the posts you already have?
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You realize if you want more room you can fit it into the posts you already have?
Was on the character limit for the first one so just wanted to be safe for the other two by adding an extra one.

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So the final "epic" stage finishes on a climb averaging around 6 percent?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this stage will really change much in the overall standings.

(BTW, if I sound bitter, it's not towards anybody, I'm just ridiculously disappointed at the rest day's events  ;D  >:(  :police:)

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Nice preview, Froomey.
Maybe my temporary new most-favorite-est rider TEJAY :fanfare will get rewarded for his (sort-of) hard work for Cadel and will be allowed to ride away for the win.

Looking forward to two days of hopefully good racing. Go get 'em boys!

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flipping hell froome i think you have set the record for the longest race intro on the forum

will read it tonight while waiting for something interesting to happen in the stage. should be safe all the way to the finish

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on bales the attack should be at km14 of the climb so as to avoid the flatter parts which sky like to bounce back on. that's still about 40 km out so there's a lot of chances for other riders to get back until then, an attack will be unlikely to work from that far out.

i doubt that the last climb will be able to create much that's decisive.
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I'm getting sick of all these breakaways. Would it be too much to ask to have a Top 10 GC guy win the stage?
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So the final "epic" stage finishes on a climb averaging around 6 percent?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this stage will really change much in the overall standings.

(BTW, if I sound bitter, it's not towards anybody, I'm just ridiculously disappointed at the rest day's events  ;D  >:(  :police:)

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Nice preview, Froomey.
Maybe my temporary new most-favorite-est rider TEJAY :fanfare will get rewarded for his (sort-of) hard work for Cadel and will be allowed to ride away for the win.

Looking forward to two days of hopefully good racing. Go get 'em boys!
Peyragudes averages 7.3% I think and we saw today what damage the Peyresourde can do, so it we may still see some damage, after today's stage though there is not much to play for, lets hope Nibbles goes for an attack over the Beles and on the descent, may liven things up, but even so he doesnt seem to have the acceleration to shake off Froome and Wiggins combo and anyway he seems resigned to a podium.

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Mente looks like a great little climb but won't have any bearing in the overall result of the stage. 

I'm getting sick of all these breakaways. Would it be too much to ask to have a Top 10 GC guy win the stage?

Agreed.  Tomorrow really is the last chance saloon for any of the GC contenders who want to try and move up towards the podium - particularly someone like JVDB2 for instance.  I hope for the final mountain stage, we see the top riders fighting it out mano a mano.  JVDB2 certainly seems to think that it will all kick off on the Port de Bales and that Wiggins might struggle...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/van-den-broeck-calls-for-allies  Time for Nibbles to shine
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Time for Nibbles to shine
With Froome present that's almost impossible  :(. If only Wiggins and Nibali could have gone 1 on 1 on La Touissere, Planche, today and possibly tomorrow on Peyraguides...
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And the next day and the next as well if it wasnt a TT
You would think some of the teams would want to take a stage and would be desperate too but their answer to that is to send people in the break and the strongest climbers now are not interested in stage and helping Sky, but after today where only 3 are left hopefully riders like VDB will want to go for it, though he most likely isnt strong enough to take on Nibs and the Sky duo...

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Cometh the hour cometh the man. If there is any man with the balls to attack on the Port de Bales it is Vincenzo Nibali.

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Cometh the hour cometh the man. If there is any man with the balls to attack on the Port de Bales it is Vincenzo Nibali.
He may have the balls but can he produce an attack which will not be shut down within a Km by Froome? After today I somehow doubt it

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He may have the balls but can he produce an attack which will not be shut down within a Km by Froome? After today I somehow doubt it

He attacked the once and and 2 riders were left. This is cycling, its not 1 attack or bust. Even if Froome makes it maybe Wiggins wont. Maybe they will go too deep into the red. Maybe he can ride them off their wheel.  Thankfully that is how Nibali usually sees it and the cycling world prays that he has good legs tomorrow.

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He attacked the once and and 2 riders were left. This is cycling, its not 1 attack or bust. Even if Froome makes it maybe Wiggins wont. Maybe they will go too deep into the red. Maybe he can ride them off their wheel.  Thankfully that is how Nibali usually sees it and the cycling world prays that he has good legs tomorrow.
Lets hope you are right it would provide the Tour with a much needed boost and indeed cycling is never black and white, there is always hope however minute..

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Tomorrow is another day," he said. "But it's getting harder and harder and more and more complicated."

It won't be one attack that works, it will have to be repeated efforts.  Go, get shut down, and then go again, and again after that.  Think back to the Contador vs Chicken duel in 2007.  Froome may well be able to follow the sharp acceleration, but Wiggins will diesel his way up the climbs.  Nibali's best chance imho, albeit a slim one, is to try and put that doubt into the Sky minds.  However, this only really works if Wiggins is on a terrible day - unlikely, or Nibbles gets a huge lead (as Wiggins will take good time out of him in the TT) - also quite unlikely.  I would like to see Wiggins try and go onto the attack tomorrow - or at least put the hammer down himself a little bit.  I don't mind if he and Froome roll in together, but it would be nice to see him on the front and trying to put some hurt on.  Closing down Nibbles's second effort today showed he is clearly capable of it.  For his own sake as a (potential) Tour winner, I think he needs to do  abit more front running as and when the occasion arises, otherwise his victory will always be the one (to some people at least) that he should have given to his team mate.

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cycling is never black and white,

Yes it is. Wiggins bad. Nibali good.

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So, if Bradley holds on during this stage, after it he will officially be in yellow for as many days as Alberto throughout their careers.
Moreover, then he's basically assured to take it all the way to Paris, at which point he will be tied in this statistic with Bjarne Riis, and be just 1 day below Pedro Delgado.

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Would love to see something - anything, but I think the only shake-ups will be if riders get dropped rather than attack.

Gotta admit to being in the TVG parade - would like to JVB and Haimer get dropped and Tejay have a great day. We'll see. 

These stages look good on paper, and we always say "this is the stage" & "the attacks will happen on this climb" but really, we haven't seen much attacking (in general).  Shake-ups are due to riders getting dropped a la Evans

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i am going to really stick my neck and predict a break of about 30 riders to go up the road breaking up on the final climb with someone french winning the stage, nibbles will attack, sky will counter and all three will arrive together and Evans will crack again.

i know some may think i am crazy but that is what is going to happen

I may just watch my recording of last night and go to bed.

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i am going to really stick my neck and predict a break of about 30 riders to go up the road breaking up on the final climb with someone french winning the stage, nibbles will attack, sky will counter and all three will arrive together and Evans will crack again.

i know some may think i am crazy but that is what is going to happen

I may just watch my recording of last night and go to bed.

That's just crazy talk.

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i am going to really stick my neck and predict a break of about 30 riders to go up the road breaking up on the final climb with someone french winning the stage, nibbles will attack, sky will counter and all three will arrive together and Evans will crack again.

i know some may think i am crazy but that is what is going to happen

I may just watch my recording of last night and go to bed.

I agree with you thats why I picked Rolland to win the stage.

same as yesterday Evans might crack but he might attack as the commentators start saying what a fighter, what a champion explode on the screen.  :D
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He attacked the once and and 2 riders were left. This is cycling, its not 1 attack or bust. Even if Froome makes it maybe Wiggins wont. Maybe they will go too deep into the red. Maybe he can ride them off their wheel.  Thankfully that is how Nibali usually sees it and the cycling world prays that he has good legs tomorrow.

You, sir, speak of my deepest desires. (OK, maybe that's a bit thick).

I shall pray for the scenario you describe to become true until we pass Ferrère. And then Froome vs. Nibali on the Peyresourde & Peyragudes, one-on-one, mano a mano, the Kenyan vs. the Sicilian, with Wiggins trying to keep the gap below 2-3 minutes - that's how history is written. :-*

And now, it'll probably be a big procession of Sky all the way up the Port-de-Balès... ???

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Quote from an interview with Cadel after yesterday, from my morning newspaper:
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I wonder if I am far enough back now to be given the freedom to go in a breakaway. You have to be optimistic and realistic, too.

Elsewhere, it also mentioned that he's been suffering with stomach pains for the last few days.

Realistically no, he won't be allowed in a breakaway, but shows that he has still got a bit of fight left in him I think.  Hope he can feature at some point today, and not just by going backwards.

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What can be assured it that this stage will be a cracker, a stage which will leave a true legacy,

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