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Stage four of the 2012 version of the Vuelta à España is a stage that is typical for the Vuelta in recent years: One that is entirely geared towards the climb that is positioned at the end of the stage. After the shorter, punchier finish of stage 3, this stage will be another test for the GC riders.

The parcours
The riders leave from Barakaldo, a town near the coast of the Bay of Biscay. From there they move south over a 160,6 km long parcours which features two first category climbs: the Puerto de Orduña and Estación de Valdezcaray, on which the finish is located. However, the top of the first of these is located just 51,7 km into the stage, and will not be used for attacks, except perhaps in the break. It will be on the final climb where this stages winner will make his move.





The stage features two intermediate sprints: at Haro, 48,7 km before the finish, and another at 29,6 km before the finish. Sprinters that survive the first climb could go for some points here, but it is more likely that these sprints will go to early escapees. As such, these intermediate sprints can't be expected to provide a whole lot of entertainment, unless one of the GC riders looks to gain some bonus seconds if the break is caught early.

The first climb, Puerto de Orduña, is not long but relatively steep, with 7,7 km at 7,8%. However, as mentioned above, it is located too far from the finish to be used for attacks. It is a category 1 climb though, so anyone with intentions for the mountain classification will want to make sure he is present in the break to grab those points.

The climb to Estaciín de Valdazcaray is where this stage will be decided. It is 13,4 km long and averages 5,2%. As can be seen on the profile below, it becomes less steep towards the finish. The first kilometer of the climb has an average of 9%, but from there on it only becomes less. The first seven km are between 9 and 5%, but the final 6 are much less steep, with the final bit even counting as low as 1,3%. This is thus unlikely to be a climb that will account for huge differences in the GC. The harder early half of the climb will cause a selection to be made though, and will even allow early attackers a chance. The second half of the climb however, allows the diesels to get back to a front group unless there the tempo is kept very high.



This stage seems likely to end either in a small group sprint or in a victory for one or more attackers who went early in the climb. The punchers will be dropped early in the climb, and the climbers will fight this out amongst themselves.

The start: Barakaldo
Barakaldo is a town close to Bilbao with a population of over 100.000. The town was once an industrial centre mainly focused on the production of steel. However, in recent years the industry has declined in importance and tourism has largely taken over. The Bilbao Exhibition Centre is located in the town, where a great number of fairs and other events are held, including "Las Fiestas del Carmen", a yearly event with numerous concerts. Furthermore, Barakaldo has a number of shopping centres. Finally, the Barakaldo Theatre is a well-known centre of the local cultural life. As buildings are concerned, probably the most famous sight of Barakaldo is the bridge the Puente Diablo.



For cycling fans, Barakaldo is mainly known as the birthplace of Movistar rider David Lopez Garcia, who won a stage in the Vuelta of 2010. Unfortunately for him, he won't be able to enjoy the Vuelta's visit to the town where he was born, since he isn't part of the Movistar squad. Isidro Nozal, runner-up of the 2003 Vuelta, was born in this town as well. Finally, the twin brothers Javier and Ricardo Otxoa were born in Barakaldo. Javier won a stage in the 2000 edition of the Tour de France and was second in the polka dot classification. However, in 2001, both brothers were hit by a car while training. Ricardo did not survive this accident and Javier was too severely injured to cycle professionally ever again. He continued cycling, and won a gold and a silver medal in the 2004 Paralympic Games, dedicating his victory to his late brother.

The arrival: Estación de Valdezcaray
The Estación de Valdezcaray is a ski station near the town of Ezcaray. The resort offers 22 ski pistes, and is a becoming more popular each year. The town of Ezcaray itself is an old Basque town that now mainly thrives on tourism. The historic centre of the town is carefully preserved, and its old buildings and the general atmosphere are an important tourist attraction. Ezcaray offers a number of shops, local artisans, sports facilities, hotels and restaurants for the tourists. This makes the town a popular place to visit in both summer and winter, thanks to the ski resort that the Vuelta will be visiting today.



This is only the second time the Vuelta uses this climb. In the year of 1991, it was used for an uphill time trial. The Colombian rider Fabio Parra won the stage, and would eventually end up in 5th place in the GC. Will this fact motivate current Colombian riders Henao and Urán to attempt to follow in the footsteps of their countryman? They will face serious competition, but they will certainly give it a try.
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So long for history and culture, now on to what we're all here for: the racing. This early stage will certainly provide plenty of entertainment for all, as it will be an important part of the fight for the GC.

The jerseys
This stage will be decisive in the fight for all jerseys. First and foremost, it will be important for the GC. The second of 10 mountaintop finishes, there will certainly be a lot of gaps seperating the riders. While it is unlikely the Vuelta will be decided here, odds are there will be some people dropping out of contention already. It will certainly be a good first test towards who will receive that coveted red jersey at the end of the race. And besides the actual time gaps, there are also bonus seconds waiting for the first three riders to arrive at the finish. This will certainly make the riders fight it out until the last to win this stage, take the red jersey and put some time into competitors who fell behind.

1.Alejandro ValverdeMovistar Team08:46:56
2.Benat IntxaustiMovistar Team00:18
3.Joaquin RodriguezKatusha Team00:19
4.Christopher FroomeSky Procycling00:20
5.Alberto ContadorSaxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank 0:24

There are plenty of points up for grabs in the mountain classification, with the two first category climbs both being worth 10 points towards this competition. Chances are the jersey will be changing hands, but to whom remains to be seen. But with the number of points limited to 20, this stage will not be decisive in the fight for the blue-and-white jersey. However, since Ligthart is not the best of climbers, it is very likely the jersey will change hands.

1.Pim LigthartVacansoleil-DCM11 pts
2.Alejandro ValverdeMovistar Team10 pts
3.Joaquin RodriguezKatusha Team6 pts

The points classification is always an issue in the Vuelta. While in the Tour this stage would give only limited points towards the green points jersey, in the Vuelta climbers have as much of a chance as anyone at this jersey. In fact, since this year the race features so many uphill finishes, it is very likely the top contenders at this stage will continue to be dangerous for this competition.

1.Alejandro ValverdeMovistar Team25 pts
2.John DegenkolbArgos-Shimano25 pts
3.Allan DavisOrica - GreenEdge20 pts

The favourites
Who are the favourites on such a climb? The most obvious choice, and in my opinion the top favourite, is Joaquim Rodriquez. His climbing prowess combined with his good finish make him a clear contender for this stage, but also for a GC podium and the points classification. Valverde, the leader in both the GC and the points classification, will be looking to repeat his win on stay 3 by using his sprint speed. Others will be trying as well though: last years points classification winner Bauke Mollema might have a good sprint ready, while local favourite Igor Anton is likely to try an attack or two. Perhaps one of the most dangerous riders here will be Uran. The Colombian, known for his good sprint and strong climbing, will certainly try for the sprint here, although he might have to work for his teammate Chris Froome instead.

Whoever wins will have made a good jump on all three major classifications: the GC with some bonus seconds, the points for the green jersey and the mountain classification points as an added bonus. There is thus a lot at stake here, and the riders will definitely make it a good race.

May the strongest man win!
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Fignon - In my day, doping methods were derisory and the riders´exploits were massive.
For the last 15 years or so  it has been the other way rond: there is a huge number of ways in which riders can dope, and any exploits are derisory.

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after stage 3

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=54601

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The final Arrate has served to clear candidates for overall victory in the Tour of spathe and the podium. The differences have been minimal in the third stage, only six seconds until the 14th, but several big names have shown that fail at their best, especially Denis Menchov, at 1:52, Thomas de Gendt, at 2:07, and Jurgen Van den Broeck, at 3:23. Three less.

Others who have lost time in the third stage were: Henao, 47 ", after being hit by a motorcycle of the commissioners; Cobo, Monfort and Kessiakoff, 50"; Gadret, at 1:18, Cunego, 1: 28, Gerdemann, at 2:07; Kashechkin and Quintana, at 2:31, Moncoutie, at 5:36.

going to be some massive time gaps after today stage 4 - BOTD will be cool  8)

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Henao hit by a motorcycle, never knew...


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They should throw the motordriver out of the Vuelta for that.. holy sh*t thats ridiculous.

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They should throw the motordriver out of the Vuelta for that.. holy sh*t thats ridiculous.

Or at least give him the time of the group he was in.
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The motorbike riders have it tough and ussaully do a great job in very difficult conditions but as a whole there are far too many motorbikes on the course especially on mountian finishes. Sometimes the leader/leader group seems to have a dozen or more motorbikes in front of, beside and behind them. While we all love great tv coverage and photographs perhaps the effort to get them is going to far and is putting riders in danger.
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Despite the self-serving data benders and associated propaganda to the contrary, I am led to believe that there are pockets of organised, highly sophisticated dopers, even within 'new age' cycling teams. Personally, I don't accept that the 'dark era' has ended, it has just morphed into a new guise.

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Valverde not happy

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10 Juan Jose Cobo Acebo (Spa) Movistar Team 0:00:47
There seems to be a sense of ineivitability seeing that...
I just seem to get the feeling Cobo is going to be really strong towards the end of this Vuelta, and if so this Vuelta may be a true cracker if Froome manages to hold his form..

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Unzué, crítico con Sky: “Han provocado la caída”; Valverde: “Es antideportivo”

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=54650

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Movistar not amused.. So rest of the vuelta will be Movistar vs Sky/Katusha it seems.

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Sierra Nevada anyone?

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Looks like it, just with a little more drama attached to the stage :). The main thing that bothered me today, during the chase, is why the heck didnt they show the km to go graphic? Very frustrating to see a chase and not know how much KM to go to the foot of the final climb.

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I guess it fits 2011 too, but my reference was to a certain day of infamy in 2009.

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Cunego winning on La Pandera (Sierra Nevada), Valverde taking time on Gesink, Evans (iirc) flatting & Samu with a bad day (or trouble)?  You mean that?

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Yes, did Unzue have a problem when a favourite was struck by misfortune on that occasion?

Note: I am happy to let them race, but teams and riders are rarely consistent on these issues.

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Nice stage but the coverage is bad, almost no data.

:pray Landa
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Flecha: To those who are handing out lessons on ethics, I remind them that a car hit me when I was in a break and no one waited for me
https://twitter.com/petercossins/status/237951995225452545

Oof.

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 I missed the tv so hope Dim has all the action seems piti not happy with something.

I think in this day and age people should just keep racing who cares if someone punctures.

Here is the reason this sometimes rules are justing making issues. Ie today we wait but tomorrow nope it was racing so no waiting.

Do not wait and ev eryone knows the deal

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https://twitter.com/petercossins/status/237951995225452545

Oof.
I like Flecha but this is stupid. Valverde is the race leader of a GT.

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Our bus was broken and not at the finish today! Luckily I could take @VacansoleilDCM shower after this freakin hot stage! Thanks Michel!


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Thanks to @vacansoleilDCM for the quick shower after the finish! Drinks on us tonight! Hopefully the #Rabobus is fixed for tomorrow's stage!
:)  8)
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I missed the tv so hope Dim has all the action seems piti not happy with something.

I think in this day and age people should just keep racing who cares if someone punctures.

Here is the reason this sometimes rules are justing making issues. Ie today we wait but tomorrow nope it was racing so no waiting.

Do not wait and ev eryone knows the deal

Agreed! If you wait for someone, you always have to wait for everyone. Now it's the leader who crashes, tomorrow it's the number 3, or a rider hoping to get into the top-10, or a sprinter, or just any domestique.. No waiting, just ride to win.

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/valverde-accuses-sky-of-provoking-vuelta-crash

A bit extreme by Piti, but funny how he damaged an apology from the two Colombians :fp

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Valverde told reporters that he believed that his crash had been provoked by a Sky rider and that the echelon attacked just as the the crash had happened. Sky later defended themselves, saying that they had not known that Valverde had fallen and that it was in no way intentional.
 
Before going to the Sky bus, Valverde said “Sky formed an echelon and they’re perfectly within their rights to do that. I’m not cross that I lost the lead because of this, but because there was no respect.”

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It's hilarious every time someone does that. Obviously he'll be upset with himself, but he'll be able to laugh about it later.
Hopefully he gets another chance at a stage and gets to celebrate for realz.
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Why not just go by the Andy Schleck rule of never wait for anyone, unless its Andy Schleck,

Fair and simple.

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Is it clear why Igor Anton was in trouble? Mollema wasnt feeling well at the end of the stage, couldnt drink well enough cause of being in the second echelon. But what happened to Anton? He shouldve been easily able to handle this stage. ???

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Purito weighs in

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“I don’t want to criticise any team, each one does what they want, but we [Katusha] decided to stop working [in the echelon] after I heard about Alejandro’s fall from [Movistar rider] Beñat Intxausti,” Rodriguez said, after stating that he did not think the crash was intentionally caused or that Sky had seen the crash.
 
“The crash was to the left and we were going down the right hand side of the road. I heard a loud noise and I thought everybody woudl stop, but they didn’t wait, they made the echelon.
 
“We decided to collaborate, but when we heard the news about Alejandro and that he was chasing behind, we stopped. I’m not criticising other teams, but that’s what I decided.”

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Sky, and later BMC, should not have raced. Valverde was the leader, and that commands some measure of respect. Valverde has little credibility to moan though, because as has been pointed out he raced when Evans flatted to Sierra Nevada in an exceptionally close Vuelta. Of course the Sierra Nevada situation is difficult, because even if Valverde had decided to wait, perhaps his non-flatted competitors (Mosquera, S. Sanchez, Gesink, Basso) might've used the opportunity to attack him, it was so late in the stage.

However, this situation was clear, there were no dangerous men up the road, and keeping the pace recoverable for the fallen would not have led to Sky/Froome's GC position coming under threat from someone else from the peloton.

My position in this comes somewhat from the ultimate disappointment of losing any chance you have to win a race you've built your season around through no fault of your own, and also because riding in situations like this is just going to make the pro-peloton a more bitter place (see Flecha's tweet quoted above) and that's good for no one.
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Hopefully Movistar come out and attack pee stops and feed zones!

 

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