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Title: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on June 24, 2013, 16:44
To be fair, its been a while since I stacked at all... let alone a bad one.

But on 14th I came head first onto the road and 45kmh and have no recollection of anything much from the day at all.

I told the ambulance men there was a cat on the road that I had to avoid, and I do remember seeing an animal run out, but most of it is a bit blank.

In terms of injury I was confined to a spine board and neck collar for 6 hours whilst having x-rays and brain scans.

My helmet saved me the Doctors said.

Somehow I didn't even break a bone but here is the full list of injury...

Concussion (from being out cold 5 minutes)
Head trauma
bruise on collar bone/shoulder cup/elbow/pelvis and hip
cuts on head/neck/elbow and knee.

My Garmin data shows no change in my heart rate so I am confident I didn't black out and all the machines I was wired too for the hours after reported no chance.

I never even ride to the shop without my lid on and feeling the huge bump on my head when the paramedic cut the Giro off me made me think how bad it would have been without the helmet.

Going to be a few weeks/months before I get the movement in my hip and knee back.

My bike is in the repair shop now, so we will see the final cost but the bars and forks aren't looking good.





Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Anthony Moan on June 24, 2013, 19:30
Jesus mate, sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on June 24, 2013, 19:42
That sounds like you had a close call!
Best wishes for your recovery, I hope you have no lasting injuries.

I never ride anywhere without helmet either, it just makes me feel safer.


I crashed in a similar way last year, in early July. Possibly even more than 45 km/h (it was down the Ofenpass, about 9%), but I can remember everything from the day (except a phone call I allegedly made to my parents after the OP, was still on the good medication).
Went over the handlebars, bike made a somersault over me.
Cut on the left eyebrow (expertly handled by the Swiss, almost invisible now), minor bruising on arm and leg, a rather deep wound on the right ankle (from the front wheel spokes, probably) - and a broken collarbone. The helmet took much of the impact as well, I don't think I'd be here now without a helmet.
Got transported off to hospital in the tiniest ambulance I'd ever seen, OP the same day (also very expertly done), released 24 hours after admission. Brilliant care by the way, everybody was very helpful, and the food was great - not how I imagined hospital food at all. Zucchini soufflé for lunch... :)
Spent three months with a piece of titanium in my body, started riding again after 1,5 months. Went down to Limburg in September and rode my bike for 8 days straight without problems (with the titanium still in there); and now I'm as good as new.

Good recovery, Jimmy! :hug
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on June 24, 2013, 20:02
Sorry to hear that, Jimble, but really glad you're OK enough to have told us about it here. Wishing you the very best and a speedy recovery, dude! :hug
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: just some guy on June 24, 2013, 20:06
Glad your ok in the big picture of things

More time for watching cycling now  :D
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Joachim on June 24, 2013, 20:06
My last crash was 3 years ago. Front tyre blowout on a descent   :eyesonfire

I went down, on my side. Didn't think I'd hit my head until somebody told me that I kept repeating myself (classic sign of concussion). Took my helmet off straight away and sure enough it was cracked.

I suspect that no helmet that day would have put me in hospital.

Heal well  :niceday
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: AG on June 25, 2013, 00:50
best wishes for your recovery Jimmy.

That sounds pretty scary 
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Dim on June 25, 2013, 01:01
Get Well Jimmy

And yes people, always wear a helmet.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: August on June 25, 2013, 01:32
Glad your okay, heal up fast, I wish you the best on getting back to riding.

From experience I can tell you it's likely it will take some time to recover fully mentally. Earlier this year on a group ride I was sprinting with another rider for a stop ahead sign, then the next thing I remember is waking up on the side of the road not remembering what had happened. Apparently I had gone over my handlebars (I suspect the cause being a broken cleat and my foot coming out of the pedal) and upon impact my helmet had somehow come off my head. I ended up with in addition to cuts and bruises a minor concussion, a small laceration to my liver, as well as having to get some stitches above my eye where I hit the ground. Was off the bike 2 weeks myself but even more important then recovering during those 2 weeks was recovering mentally. And getting back to a point where I felt comfortable riding again. On the group rides I did once able to ride again I stayed completely out of all the sprints and when I did decide to get in a sprint again I just did it from a seated position. But I managed to return mentally and get back to my normal riding level.

So when you do start riding again, it's perfectly normal that you may not feel as comfortable and controlled on the bike as you did before the crash. But just hang in there. It will take some time, but you'll get back to your old level with time.

I often feel the mental side of cycling is the hardest side. Nothing feels worse than not feeling the same on the bike after a crash, or not being able to deliver in a race, or struggling to make a return to your old level. And pushing forward after these kinds of setbacks can be very difficult. I've had to find the motivation to continue and push past those kinds of setbacks more than once this year in my own racing. It's hard coming back mentally, but as long as you have the motivation to do so and are patient, you can get there.

Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Francois the Postman on June 25, 2013, 02:52
Last winter I had the misfortune to see what head trauma can reduce people to. Stuff you read about, but a frightening experience to see in someone you care about. And that was from slipping over wet leaves at probably 12km/h tops. Since then, whenever I hear someone even mentioning a head injury they walked away from.. man, it's good to hear you walked away from it, and it's still you Jimmy. For you and those who care about you.

Hope the other bits recover soon too, and that getting back on the bike will be just like it was before. Sooner rather than later. But don't rush it. Nothing as important as giving the head time to heal its wounds too, visible or not. And sometimes that is longer than you want it to be, or expect it to be.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on June 25, 2013, 09:50
For the first few days I was done with cycling and someone on here was likely to get a bargain Bianchi road and Rose TT bike!

Sadly for you all I am now thinking this isnt the right way to finish and that I will be back although might be sportives and not time trials in the future.

I want to enjoy my riding. Shame as I have been racing the best I have done for 5 years.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qJh5CcQSFBA/UcX_IGggsmI/AAAAAAAAbEk/6mefTuyVaPE/w433-h577-no/20130614_155800.jpg)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on June 25, 2013, 10:23
And yes people, always wear a helmet.

Thanks, Dad. :lol

Seriously though, folks, you heard the man...
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Anthony Moan on June 25, 2013, 22:59
That sounds like you had a close call!
Best wishes for your recovery, I hope you have no lasting injuries.

I never ride anywhere without helmet either, it just makes me feel safer.


I crashed in a similar way last year, in early July. Possibly even more than 45 km/h (it was down the Ofenpass, about 9%), but I can remember everything from the day (except a phone call I allegedly made to my parents after the OP, was still on the good medication).
Went over the handlebars, bike made a somersault over me.
Cut on the left eyebrow (expertly handled by the Swiss, almost invisible now), minor bruising on arm and leg, a rather deep wound on the right ankle (from the front wheel spokes, probably) - and a broken collarbone. The helmet took much of the impact as well, I don't think I'd be here now without a helmet.
Got transported off to hospital in the tiniest ambulance I'd ever seen, OP the same day (also very expertly done), released 24 hours after admission. Brilliant care by the way, everybody was very helpful, and the food was great - not how I imagined hospital food at all. Zucchini soufflé for lunch... :)
Spent three months with a piece of titanium in my body, started riding again after 1,5 months. Went down to Limburg in September and rode my bike for 8 days straight without problems (with the titanium still in there); and now I'm as good as new.

Good recovery, Jimmy! :hug
No mate you are not good as new, we all know that :D
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on June 26, 2013, 08:30
Am off to watch the club 10 tonight so hopefully will get a bit of my mojo back and be tempted by a little spell of turbo work to turn my legs.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: esafosfina on June 26, 2013, 19:32
Shiiiite, bad news indeed mate! Look after yerself... all the best for the recovery!

Gotta say, regards helmet use... I never, ever used to train with one (in Europe - always did in Aus) but lately I automatically reach for the 'casque' even if I'm just pottering for an hour in the lanes. The only downside being as I'm getting, er, slightly (ok, ffs, completely...) bald, I get woeful suntan marks on my barnet!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: ram on June 27, 2013, 11:20
Bloody hell Jimmy, get well.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on July 12, 2013, 11:14
Physio says yay so I am off out on the roads tomorrow after a week of boredom on the turbo whilst the sun has been shining.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on July 12, 2013, 17:02
Awesome, Jimble! That was ruddy quick actually. Though I'm sure it felt like an eternity for you!  :yuush
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on July 16, 2013, 11:33
It did indeed feel forever.

Am going to ride a time trial Weds evening so we will see how that goes.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: AG on July 16, 2013, 11:40
best of luck Jimmy
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on July 18, 2013, 10:49
26m11s for the 10 miles (or 16km).

I kept under my max HR and enjoyed the sunshine ! :)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on July 18, 2013, 10:51
26m11s for the 10 miles (or 16km).

I kept under my max HR and enjoyed the sunshine ! :)

Good time, Jimski! So how does that compare to times achieved by your "unbroken" self?
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on July 18, 2013, 11:20
About a minute slower... so not lost too much in a month off.

Post Merge: October 29, 2013, 12:08
now back down to short 25s so nothing lost in the crash apart from half a day of memory and plenty of skin :)

Post Merge: October 29, 2013, 12:08
Not wanting to plug a rival site...

but here is my review of the year with more about coming back from a crash.

http://road.cc/content/blog/97480-my-year-2013

Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on December 02, 2013, 10:00
came off again this weekend. not so lucky this time and have fractured my elbow  :ouch
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: just some guy on December 02, 2013, 10:06
came off again this weekend. not so lucky this time and have fractured my elbow  :ouch

Get well soon jimmy, was going to like your post, that just seemed cruel
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on December 02, 2013, 10:13
ha ha thanks :)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: AG on December 02, 2013, 11:18
damn Jimmy.  that isnt good
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Claudio Cappuccino on December 02, 2013, 11:56
came off again this weekend. not so lucky this time and have fractured my elbow  :ouch
Thats not nice, good recovery  :ouch

Dont want to be a smartass but this should be in every cyclists learning curve imho:
http://www.hagakuredojo.com/breakfalls-illustrated.html

Perhaps easy to say for me as this is my second nature - did the sport from 4 years old onwards - but to know how to fall is important as hell, certainly when you are riding at 20/30 mph.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on December 02, 2013, 13:02
Ouch. Good recovery!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on December 04, 2013, 14:29
thanks all.
not alone is coming down in the UK at the moment http://road.cc/content/forum/100172-it-me-or-are-roads-super-slippy-mo lot of it about.

 :S :S
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on April 03, 2014, 15:55
More time off for me :(

Self imposed this time.

After the broken arm, new baby and moving house I have taken the opportunity to have some other surgery at this time to get everything out of the way.

So another week or so off the bike and then I can get started.

Am going to use the club 10's to bring my legs back on and a few long sportives over the summer for endurance.

Not writing off the season just yet!!! but its going to be hard now.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Vespertine on April 03, 2014, 16:31
Sorry to hear about your broken arm. Was it from a crash? I think taking the opportunity to get yourself all shiny and new is a great idea.

I got totally stuffed by a bus driving into a bicycle lane about six weeks ago and ended up with a broken arm. I was back on the bike in about five weeks but on the turbo after two. It took a few weeks to get some form of semblance of fitness back, but when it came it wasn't too shabby.

I did take the incredibly boring opportunity on the turbo to really work on my pedaling style and I think that paid off a little bit, my cadence is definitely up afterwards.

I do feel for you though, those first couple of weeks off the bike and totally unable to move my arm were absolute torture mentally. I was just looking out the window brooding.

Get well soon and good luck with the 10's!!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on April 07, 2014, 20:34
Sorry to hear about your broken arm. Was it from a crash? I think taking the opportunity to get yourself all shiny and new is a great idea.
Yeah it was slow speed and innocuous.

Enjoying the next few days off before turbo pain starts again !
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: 42x16ss on April 08, 2014, 02:59
Get hold of some Sufferfest videos :cool: They make time training indoors fly.

Old videos of the classics are great too
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on April 22, 2014, 11:33
Well despite a pretty small amount of 2014 mileage (less than 400 miles!) I hung on for a 26:30 10 mile tt on weds
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on April 23, 2014, 20:55
bit windier and raining this week but dug in for a similar time...

got a 174bpm heart rate on the little rise about 8.5 miles in !
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on November 12, 2014, 17:01
Well. The season ended well with a 10 mile tt in the 25mins and a 100 mile sportive in just over 5 hours.

I am hoping that no babies or house moves cause me to have a truncated winter this year.

With that in mind I have entered the Ronde Cyclo in 2015 and will be making my Flandrian cobbled debut at the age of 40 !!!!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on November 12, 2014, 17:55
With that in mind I have entered the Ronde Cyclo in 2015 and will be making my Flandrian cobbled debut at the age of 40 !!!!
NICE! :D

I'm sure you'll have loads of fun. In my own Flandrien debut (less than four weeks after buying my first racer, only doing the 70 km route) I met a couple of Englishmen in the finish area while enjoying my Belgian fries. ;)

It's a shame the route isn't ending with the Muur-Bosberg-Ninove combination, that is a great stretch of road. But you'll enjoy it nevertheless.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on November 12, 2014, 18:31
Well. The season ended well with a 10 mile tt in the 25mins and a 100 mile sportive in just over 5 hours.

I am hoping that no babies or house moves cause me to have a truncated winter this year.

With that in mind I have entered the Ronde Cyclo in 2015 and will be making my Flandrian cobbled debut at the age of 40 !!!!

Well done, Jimble! Any help you need with local stuff, let me know.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on November 12, 2014, 19:49
I am thinking of staying near Ghent so I am local to pick up the transponder in Oudenaarde on the Friday afternoon.

I am doing the 120km.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on November 12, 2014, 20:43
I am thinking of staying near Ghent so I am local to pick up the transponder in Oudenaarde on the Friday afternoon.

I am doing the 120km.

Good idea. Then you can do some tourism too.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on November 13, 2014, 09:26
Just deliberating whether the wife and kids can come along.

The eldest loves watching bike racing an in her three years had already seen Cav, Kittel, Wiggo and all the GB domestic pros in action :)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on November 13, 2014, 09:27
Just deliberating whether the wife and kids can come along.

The eldest loves watching bike racing an in her three years had already seen Cav, Kittel, Wiggo and all the GB domestic pros in action :)

Make it so, Jimble. Let the brainwashing commence from an early age! ;)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on November 13, 2014, 09:34
Its just whether the one year old will stand in a field for consecutive days waiting for Daddy and his mates on day 1 and the pros on day 2.

!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: AG on November 13, 2014, 10:31
and the pay-off needed for your wife if you make her do that   :D
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on November 13, 2014, 11:58
Always that !
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on January 02, 2015, 16:05
Here is my 2014 review and 2015 preview from my road.cc column...

http://road.cc/content/blog/139786-2015-lets-set-some-goals
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on February 14, 2015, 23:34
I did it again.

First time riding on a track. Great fun, the banking isn't anywhere near as scary as I thought. Started some sprint match-ups, just for fun. 2 laps, best of three heats.

Went far too early in heat 1, so tried a slow approach next (leading out). Too slow, it turned out - backwheel touched the blue part that isn't as steep as the banking. Bike slid out, I went down, the bike of the mate I was sprinting against did a somersault over me. He went down too, of course - didn't have anywhere to go.

The crash itself wasn't bad, practically no track rash. But when my left foot touched the ground, I twisted my ankle. Ouch. Mate hurt his hand and got a few bruises, but is on his feet. I'm most definitely not.

Sprained ankle, bruised ego, but all in all not that bad. Got taken care of well (it helps when the guy you take down is studying medicine), just going to do naught the next few days.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on February 15, 2015, 21:01
And thanks to modern technology, here's the crash footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLYdUqK-ti4
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Drummer Boy on February 15, 2015, 23:22
I did it again.
Damn.  :(

Glad it wasn't much worse. Is the blue line really that slippery, or was it just a matter of having two different angles of track under your bike at the same time?
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on February 16, 2015, 07:52
or was it just a matter of having two different angles of track under your bike at the same time?
This.
Someone said there might have been a little patch of oil (or something) as well - but I think it was simply the two different angles.

I'm getting better, will hopefully get some crutches today, extending my range of motion. That's what's most frustrating (the pain is manageable): You can't walk even two steps.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on February 16, 2015, 11:13
This.
Someone said there might have been a little patch of oil (or something) as well - but I think it was simply the two different angles.

I'm getting better, will hopefully get some crutches today, extending my range of motion. That's what's most frustrating (the pain is manageable): You can't walk even two steps.

Fusske! :o Embedded videos always grab your attention first. So I'm sitting there being entertained and then I learn that a) it's you in the video, and b) you need crutches. :o :hug

Did you tear any muscle or anything? Hope not, and then it will heal a lot quicker.
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: LukasCPH on February 16, 2015, 15:36
I'm sitting there being entertained
LET ME ENTERTAIN YOU!! :D
It's alright - we laughed about it ourselves afterwards (how much of that was because laughter helps against the pain, I don't know).
First time on the track for almost all of us, someone was bound to go down. Just wish it wasn't me ... :lol

Did you tear any muscle or anything? Hope not, and then it will heal a lot quicker.
Don't think so. I can sit normally already, but walking is out of the question for at least a couple of days. Got the crutches, immediately improving my range of motion and comfort.

It's a good thing I have nothing more important to do than lie on my back. ;)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on February 16, 2015, 15:46
Get well soon :)
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: DJW on February 16, 2015, 18:36
I did more or less the exact same thing at Manchester Veldodrome a few years back but thankfully didn't take anyone out.

Amazing how painful it can be when you're going so slowly though...


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Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: Jimmythecuckoo on August 11, 2015, 11:28
Not a crash this time but my 2015 season is over.

Trapped nerve and back spasm.

Been a bit of an epic journey.

Ridden hard (for me) since Sept 2014 to be right for Flanders. Qualified for Team GB Masters at Tour of Cambs and won a 2-up.

Just wanted to decide when I stopped this season, not my 41 year old body!
Title: Re: The long road back after a crash...
Post by: L'arri on August 11, 2015, 12:15
Not a crash this time but my 2015 season is over.

Trapped nerve and back spasm.

Been a bit of an epic journey.

Ridden hard (for me) since Sept 2014 to be right for Flanders. Qualified for Team GB Masters at Tour of Cambs and won a 2-up.

Just wanted to decide when I stopped this season, not my 41 year old body!

Sorry to hear that, Jimmy. Old age the silent killer! :hug