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Title: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on January 13, 2021, 14:06
https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1349351836164231169
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Dsicussion
Post by: search on January 13, 2021, 16:33
Kevin Rivera will debut for #bardiani Bardiani to grab the first opportunity to fight his old Androni team mates. ;)

Same as some others (like Ciccone) he had a nose operation at the end of the season, allowing him to breath more freely
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Dsicussion
Post by: Leadbelly on January 13, 2021, 17:45
It's a very good field this year.

Vazquez (winner of Guatemala '20)
Jurado
Munoz
Restrepo
Canaveral
Rivera
Guama
Lopez
Duarte
Sevilla

.....and that's just l'etranger. The riders that will be missed most are the local talents, Aular and Quintero who are in preparation for the European and Asian seasons. No sign of Rujano Jr on the First start-list yet, but at the end of December he did say " My current program is to do the Vuelta al Táchira and then to take a plane to Europe (to ride for his Spanish club) ".

Same as some others (like Ciccone) he had a nose operation at the end of the season, allowing him to breath more freely

My prophecy is coming true!
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Dsicussion
Post by: search on January 14, 2021, 07:18
confirmed now (:

https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1349562249397080065
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Dsicussion
Post by: just some guy on January 17, 2021, 07:53
https://twitter.com/FirstCycling/status/1350707233655578624?
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on January 23, 2021, 19:44
https://twitter.com/AstridvanUden/status/1352812396457279489



Black Spoke gain revenge somewhat for the NZCC.

It would be no big surprise if 4th placed finisher FFB was in the main Jumbo team sooner rather than later due to Dumoulin's unexpected sabbatical (plus Wynants and Martens stopping mid-season).
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on January 25, 2021, 18:01
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eslgo-cW4AAnQea?format=jpg)

Campos repeats his triumph of last year. Rumours of him heading to Portugal to ride for Louletano.



Decent race for Androni with a couple of stage wins, but while Munoz and Umba both finished top-5 in the GC, neither looked likely to challenge the top dogs.

Bardiani were much less successful (plus ca change!). Best finisher was Monaco at ~1h30 down with Rivera just behind. A couple of stage podiums was all they had to write home about.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on January 25, 2021, 18:05
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EskCDjAW8AI_Hfx?format=jpg)

Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on January 25, 2021, 22:44
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EskCDjAW8AI_Hfx?format=jpg)
What happened there? :lol
Both thought they had won? Or was Aristi just so happy about his second place?
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 09, 2021, 18:32
Istarsko Proljece 11th - 14th March

(https://scontent.fbrs4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89113899_111078477166079_4084518017369636864_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=6vSGUl5aE1MAX9DgxcZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fbrs4-1.fna&oh=86454e878733598c8d4e05e72eaa100b&oe=606D725D)

Prologue » Umag TT (2km)

(https://i.imgur.com/3AUGxrm.png)

Very non-techncial. A hairpin and just one other real corner to worry about.

Stage 1 » Funtana › Porec (166km)

(https://i.imgur.com/BCOqBQb.png)

Stage 2 » Vizinada › Motovun (165km)

(https://i.imgur.com/LAyaaWj.png)

Previous winners at Motovun include Mugerli (Pogacar third), Tusveld, Eibegger and Magnus Cort way back 2014.

Stage 3 » Marcana › Umag (141km)

(https://i.imgur.com/hUgPsOf.png)
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 09, 2021, 18:34


Very incomplete so far, but we can imagine the teams will be virtually identical to the ones at Umag and Porec.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 09, 2021, 18:39
Speaking of those races....





Those results probably won't help us find the GC winner, but a stage win or two may come from those riders who did well above.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 11, 2021, 08:38
Very incomplete so far.

.....and it still is. Tut tut. Here's the prologue start order in the meantime:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwLpuu0WgAAfwX2?format=jpg)

Who's gonna win today? Dunno. Some sprinters will no doubt be up there.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 11, 2021, 12:04
If you are wanting to follow this race then Kern have very smartly made a Twitter list of what competing teams they can find. It looks like they have done this for all races they have been in (and added the organizer where they have a twitter presence). Could be handy in smaller races like this where there is no real ticker.

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1366300234263969793
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 11, 2021, 18:01
https://twitter.com/TJVacademy/status/1370038183350693891



There was a bit of a shortening of today's course, but you might have guessed that already as 2km with these times would have meant speeds approaching 100km/h and even WVA and MVDP can't do that (yet).

Poor weather is mentioned as a possibility for tomorrow.  :onfire2
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on March 12, 2021, 07:24
If you are wanting to follow this race then Kern have very smartly made a Twitter list of what competing teams they can find. It looks like they have done this for all races they have been in (and added the organizer where they have a twitter presence). Could be handy in smaller races like this where there is no real ticker.

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1366300234263969793
Clever idea!
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 12, 2021, 17:54
https://twitter.com/EqKernPharma/status/1370381890826424324

Mareczko actually made it over the final climb (well he had to honour the KoM jersey that he was wearing after the prologue!), but the massive crash (at 80km/h according to some reports) put paid to a lot plans for more than a few riders. The rain and sheer number of teams no doubt played a part in the crash, but just thinking back to the Tour of Croatia, it always (anecdotally) seemed to attract crashes or near misses in the finale.

Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 13, 2021, 19:41


Bardiani are racking up the early season wins.

Very tight heading into the final stage. Two seconds covers the top-three, but unless the weather helps it's difficult to see changes happening.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 14, 2021, 11:52
According to the race Facebook FFB won the first sprint, but as there are three sprints in total, I don't know if this one conferred bonus seconds or not. Bit strange if it did and nobody from Bardiani tried to stop him.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on March 16, 2021, 08:43
https://twitter.com/MazowszeCycling/status/1371150488071196676

:fanfare



Well they did it.

https://twitter.com/TJVacademy/status/1371182035809804289


Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Servais Knavendish on April 14, 2021, 08:54
Simply:

Cav
&
Cav again

Great to see!
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Servais Knavendish on April 14, 2021, 12:58
& again!!!

Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: t-72 on April 14, 2021, 18:52
Simply:

Cav
&
Cav again

Great to see!

& again!!!



Too many sprint stages in a row!
The effect is, every day the leadout phase becomes more combative with shoulders, heads, hands and blocking moves. The young and relatively ineperienced #unox crew seems to suffer from this. Every day they get pushed a little bit more out of position. If you can´t be #quickstep Quickstep, the old #cofidis Cofidis train with Geoffrey Soupe pushing left and right to make way for Bouhanni to enter the fight would be the best to bring here!
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on August 11, 2021, 18:27
Three pasty white wins in Portugal - Murphy, Hollyman and King!? What's happening to the world.

Admittedly they have all been from the break, but it still feels unusual. Most of the untanned victories in the past years have been sprint or prologues (McLay, Bauhaus etc).
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 17, 2021, 14:55
Tour de Bretagne 20th - 26th September

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1434595059673014272/1lXMpOGM_400x400.jpg)

Stage 1: Le Cambout › Allineuc (160km)

(https://i.imgur.com/tTxXmQE.png)

Stage 2: Corlay › Rosporden (172.15km)

(https://i.imgur.com/say0tEn.png)

Stage 3: Rosporden › Brandivy (171.8km)

(https://i.imgur.com/a96z4U0.png)

Stage 4: Ploeren › Louisfert (168.4km)

(https://i.imgur.com/JaGbLk4.png)

Stage 5: Châteaubriant › Boisgervilly (217km)

(https://i.imgur.com/1wNAOmZ.png)

Stage 6: Quédillac › Fougères (167.2km)

(https://i.imgur.com/yPtQ1dS.png)

Stage 7: Guitté › Dinan (159.9km)

(https://i.imgur.com/EFX0Rg5.png)

Just a little side order for next week while the main course is going on in Belgium.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 17, 2021, 14:55
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 19, 2021, 20:49
Direct Velo will have a ticker for the race.

Favourites?

Hmmmm. Dunno.

#dds Hayter fresh off his LBL U23 win, but others in the team could do well too.

#leopard Maas is very consistent.

#riwal Van der Lijke and Elmo Reinders are a very dangerous duo. If I had to pick a winner it would be one of these two.

#dinan Le Bon had a rather poor holiday in Cambodia, but has been hoovering up the wins in the French amateur scene.

There are others to watch as well for several reasons. Gate, Chainel, Dlamini slumming it with the devo team, Pickrell and the devo teams of AG2R and Lotto.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 20, 2021, 12:42
Break: Coqueret, Le Clec'h, Magnusson, Onley and Batt

Direct Velo will have a ticker for the race.

There will be a stream too.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 20, 2021, 13:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq38hebLV_s
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 20, 2021, 16:38
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 21, 2021, 13:34
Break: Guegan (ex-Rally stagiaire) and Gachignard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65Xohc9z6M
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 21, 2021, 19:14


Hayter's obviously in good form. Bridged to the break with one other and then dropped them all.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 22, 2021, 13:36
Break: Le Lay, Labbe, Cotard and Fouche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJDSHI13QZ0
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 22, 2021, 21:10
Stream died some time before the finish... :(

Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2021, 14:41
Break: Riou, Reinders, Trastour, Lewis and Guegan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLZLoGzr92Q
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2021, 17:50
The experienced head takes the win from the break.



Just the 217 kilometres tomorrow. :o
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2021, 14:12
Naberman and Leijnse with a small gap over the rest of the large break. Peloton ~3 minutes back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73xVMv-cAY
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2021, 19:15
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 25, 2021, 20:07
It turned up after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzxcENUwKo4

60km solo from the German.



If the bonuses are in play tomorrow, it could be anyone in the top 6 or 7 that takes it.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on September 25, 2021, 23:20
60km solo from the German.
Nice!
Of course, he is a Sibiu Tour alumnus. :)
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2021, 16:09
Break: Lino, Lagab, Hayter, Jurado, Reinders, Guasco and Boutville

70km or so to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U-SNeWSYPc
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2021, 18:37
Incredible drama at the end.

Going into the last few km (on a nice little circuit) the GC could have gone to Delaplace (6th at 11s) or Le Ny (4th at 9s) who were in a late break, or somebody ahead of them in the GC back in the peloton.

It'll be easier for you watch the finale rather than me describe it, but it looked curtains for Le Ny when he suffered a mech/crash going through the town in the last km. Delaplace missed out on bonuses (the other breakaway guys were non-GC threats and had been sitting on), but the peloton were just too slow.

Delaplace the winner? That's what Direct Velo initially told us, but then they said the 3km rule was applied and Le Ny had won.

Tbh it looked like Le Ny had almost been dropped from the break when he suffered his trouble though I could be wrong, and why was the finish not a designated climb? It had been on an earlier lap.





If he has won, it's a feather in the cap for the amateur team (beating PCT and CT outfits) and it's not like he did zero work in those last few laps, he was at the front of the break for most of it with only a little help from Voissard and then Delaplace.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 21:32
In the shadow of what was happening north of the border, there was a race from Paris to Chauny today. The startlist was surprisingly good with an impressive selection of riders that for various reasons weren´t selected for the national team. Looking at the previous results this race has actually really Improved in quality over the past few years. Like a certain other race with Paris in the name it starts in Compiegne, but the parcours seem to criss cross the area near Compiegne instead of moving further north. This means more short hills in and out of old, often dry,  river-valleys and not ever-flat terrain as it is towards Roubaix.

I was wondering why this race has picked up so much in quality, maybe the answer is St Gobain? The race passes through the ville of St Gobain itself, and the St Gobain company has one of its headquarters near Compiegne. It is a very large industrial corporation that produces a lot of stuff sometimes sold without using the st Gobain name itself, and sometimes with St Gobain in the name.  Looking only at the construction industry part of the company they own some 20-30 brands I have heard of and some of those are sponsors of cycling themselves. An interesting partner, an up and coming race on the calendar?

Anyway, this year´s edition was won by Jasper «Disaster» Philipsen #fenix - it is his 4th win in a row now. He really seems to be on a roll now. Wonder what his role will be in that next race starting in Compiegne? At least it must be allowed to question if MvDP in current shape is very much better….


Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: t-72 on October 06, 2021, 20:11
I still don't get why they are planning to move the Milano-Torino race to spring. It is perfect among the other northern Italian one day races culminating in Il Lombardia on the Saturday (which should be Sunday, but leave that discussion aside just now, T-72).

This years edition featured the very seldom interruption of any procession of cyclists across the Po Plain by crosswinds. I think it only happens once in a decade, all races combined. I have no idea how many weather forecasts I have checked and come up with 1-2 m/s blowing any which direction is completely unlikely to impact the race.

Adam Yates and the rest of the #ineos crew was caught in group 2, missing the split on the flatlands, and that may have been what eventually made the day for #jumbo Jumbo-Visma as Roglic was in the first group (even doing some work) with teammates Tobias Foss and a new german dude from the J-V talent factory.

Adam Yates had to catch the front group on the first climb up the Superga (I admit falling asleep at this crucial point in the race :-x ). On the second lap, #uae Majka attacked with #quickstep Alaphilippe following. I thought Alaphilippe would just disappear up the hillside but it appeared he was on team duty and just faking an attack to somehow help his teammate, João Almeida.

The rest of the climb went like this: Yates attacked, Roglic followed, Yates attacked, Roglic followed, Yates attacked, Roglic counterattacked and won. That was maybe the price Yates had to pay for not making the split and having to catch group 1? I could also have written something about the stuggle between Pogi and Almeida , but I am going to cancel that and ask a random question - has anybody seen Almeida declare somewhere that Froome is his big idol? I think his pedaling style more and more resembles the new gregario de luxo a little bit further down the hill.  The same leaning over the bars (not sure he was looking at a wattmeter) with slightly bent elbows, and the style of not following the attacks but closing the gaps a little-by-little while pedaløing approx 200 rpm. In that case, why go with the sheiks on the other side of Arabia, he should have the perfect mentor and more GC opportunities with the start up nation :-x

Anyway, I think the Milano-Torino is perfect wednesday after work entertainment, and perfect precursor to Il Lombardia. Don't take it to spring!


Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: t-72 on October 10, 2021, 22:44
Some will object to me putting this in the smaller race category, but it is correct as far as TV coverage goes. The French TV producers need a more flexible setup for when the first 100 km goes by in a whoosh due to crosswinds. They only showed the last 30 km of the race, and thus the traditional[1] French fall classic Paris-Tours became was shorter than a cyclocross race. Small race in measured watching time.

That was a pity, because what we got to see was quite beatiful cycling on narrow, dusty, winding lanes through small villages, farms and vineyards. Soaked in low late fall afternoon sun, this world seemed like a very different one from that race to the other side of Paris just one week back. Yet in racing style, they now resemble each other. Or perhaps, the Paris-Tours is even more like de Ronde, because the short hills are more of a feature and the cobbles less. Also the final features a long "time trial" stretch into the finish line after the last real obstacle, which makes it possible for an organized chase to catch the front group, but also for a strong front group to maintain the lead all the way to the finish line.

That was just what happened. At about - how much was that - 11 km? to go, there was a big discussion in the chase group, someone probably refused to cooperate and #groupama Arnaud Demare said zut alors! and attacked up a small hill in mad rage.  #trek Jasper Stuyven followed and they made a strong 2-man chase group chasing the 2-man lead group (#bb Bonnamour and #ag2r Stand Dewulf)   all the way to the Avenue de Grammont.

So there was a sprint between two monument winners known to have the skills and speed to finish with a winning move after a long day in the saddle (both have won the Milano-SanRemo.) Only one of them is a win candidate for big bunch sprints though.

What's more - no Quickstep #quickstep, because apparently Lefevre hates this race as it is  too much gravel, just like he also hates Strade Bianche.  I can't say they were missed.  :angel




 
 1. a wet Paris-Roubaix in October is a hipster's attempt at making a fall classic. Go back to spring!
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Drummer Boy on October 11, 2021, 03:37
They only showed the last 30 km of the race...

So it wasn't just me, then? Now I don't feel so bad. It seems that I saw as much as you did.

I quite enjoyed what I did see. Two against two, in the final minutes of the race, made for an interesting dynamic, and with the final group of four approaching the finish line together, it was tense down to the final second. 

The look of despair on the face of second-placed Franck Bonnamour, while on the podium, was similar to that of Florian Vermeersch at Roubaix—dreaming of what might have been. But the joy and relief evident on the face of winner Arnaud Démare was heartening.
 :)

https://twitter.com/ParisTours/status/1447225066454986756


https://twitter.com/BBHOTELSpbKTM/status/1447212564501475331
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: search on October 11, 2021, 08:16
as usual, Paris Tour delivered a really nice finish of the season indeed. France 3 had the final ~60k live on TV, btw, so it's not them to blame for only getting 30, I guess
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: Leadbelly on October 11, 2021, 18:12
Yeah we got the full 60km or so on Eurosport too. Great race.

One thought that passed through my head while watching the action unfold was disc brakes + puncture = race over on this type of terrain. Possibly game over with rim brakes too, but those extra seconds saved might just enable you to get back with the group you were with.
Title: Re: 2021 Smaller Race Results and Discussion
Post by: LukasCPH on October 14, 2021, 21:05
We'll get a pro gravel race in the Veneto tomorrow.
Here's something that stuck out to me:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/inaugural-serenissima-gravel-presents-a-challenge-more-technical-than-strade-bianche/ (https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/inaugural-serenissima-gravel-presents-a-challenge-more-technical-than-strade-bianche/)
Quote
One star of the peloton and his bike sponsor were very keen to participate in the Serenissima Gravel, but his trade team – which will lose both said star rider and bike supplier in 2022 – nixed the idea.
I've had a look at which stars are moving teams and came to the conclusion that this most probably refers to #bora Sagan.

It fits him, too - he's done an Olympic MTB race, he did cyclo-cross in his junior days ... why wouldn't he want to participate in this race as a fun ending to the season?
So, why didn't #bora allow him to do it ...? :shh