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Title: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 03, 2021, 11:13
Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1

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Stage Type / Difficulty Date Start / Finish Distance
1      #tt   :*:*      Sat. 08/05      Torino - Torino TISSOT ITT      8.6 km
2      #flat   :*      Sun. 09/05      Stupinigi (Nichelino) - Novara      179 km
3      #med   :*:*:*      Mon. 10/05      Biella - Canale      190 km
4      #med   :*:*:*      Tue. 11/05      Piacenza - Sestola      187 km
5      #flat   :*      Wed. 12/05      Modena - Cattolica      177 km
6      #med   :*:*:*      Thu. 13/05      Grotte di Frasassi - Ascoli Piceno      160 km
7      #flat   :*:*      Fri. 14/05      Notaresco - Termoli      181 km
8      #med   :*:*:*      Sat. 15/05      Foggia - Guardia Sanframondi      170 km
9      #mountain   :*:*:*:*      Sun. 16/05      Castel di Sangro - Campo Felice      158 km
10      #flat   :*:*      Mon. 17/05      L'Aquila - Foligno      139 km
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 05, 2021, 17:09
Stage 1: Torino – Torino 8.6 km ITT

Saturday, May 8th, 14.00 CEST

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The Giro returns to Turin for the first Grande Partenza in the city since the celebrations of the 150th anniversary in 2011 of the unification of Italy. On that occasion, the race also began with a time trial, twice the distance of Saturday's and won by an Italian: Marco Pinotti.
Unlike on that occasion, this 8.6km time trial takes place entirely within the city, which is bound to turn it's centre into a pink extravaganza.

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Technical info
A short ITT on urban roads around the Po. Starting from Piazza Castello, the route runs along the river all the way to and across the Parco del Valentino on undulating roads (intermediate time recording at the Borgo Medievale at the 3.7km mark.), The course crosses the Po River via the Ponte Balbis, where the riders will reach the longest, straight section on the course. This leads along the Corso Casale all the way to the finish next to the Church of Gran Madre di Dio, beneath the Superga hill. When leaving the Parco del Valentino, the route passes through a short and well-lit tunnel.

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The course may be flat, but it is far from flat, which means riders will have their handling skills tested as well as having to slow and then accelerate back up to cruising speed before they get the benefit of the long straight into the finish.

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The course in central Turin is perfect for riders who can push a big gear.

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So, who will be the man to don the first Maglia Rosa of the 2021 Giro?
Well, until mid March, that question would have seemed easy to answer:  #rainbow, Filippo Ganna.
However, he has now lost three consecutive tests and one of the men who beat him is here: Remi Cavagna  #deceuninck. Yet I suspect that Ineos's big engine has been saving everything for this day.
In 2019, Remco Evenepoel  #deceuninck outgunned Filippo Ganna in both the European and World Championships time trialing. But there is a big question mark hovering over his head.
Watch this space, as they say.

Favourites 1st stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Filippo Ganna
:*:*:*:* Remco Evenepoel, Rémi Cavagna
:*:*:* João Almeida, Jan Tratnik
:*:* Patrick Bevin, Alex Dowsett, Victor Campenaerts
:* Nelson Oliveira, Tobias Foss, Will Barta

Torino

 Turin is the capital city of Piedmont and of the Metropolitan City of Turin, and was the first Italian capital from 1861 to 1865. The population of the city proper is 847,033 (31 January 2021)[5] while the population of the urban area is estimated by Eurostat to be 1.7 million inhabitants.
The city has a rich culture and history, being known for its numerous art galleries, restaurants, churches, palaces, opera houses, piazzas, parks, gardens, theatres, libraries, museums and other venues. Turin is well known for its Renaissance, Baroque, Rococo, Neo-classical, and Art Nouveau architecture.
Turin's attractions make it one of the world's top 250 tourist destinations and the tenth most visited city in Italy in 2008.
Best known to cycling fans worldwide is the Basilica of Superga.

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Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: AG on May 06, 2021, 10:41
would love to see Evenapol take this - but I agree with the OP ... I just dont see anyone beating Ganna this time around.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 08, 2021, 16:23
Ganna's Pink performances:
Monreale ITT 58.831kph
Turin ITT 58.748kph
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 08, 2021, 17:17
really some strong showing there from Ganna. Didn't really expect that after last week, but seems like he just peaked perfectly

Split times for Top 30 + some GC guys:

RANK NAME  INT FIN
1 #ineos GANNA Filippo 03:59.3 (01.) <- 04:48.2 -> (01.) 08:47.5
2 #jumbo AFFINI Edoardo 04:01.1 (02.) <- 04:56.4 -> (03.) 08:57.5
3 #jumbo FOSS Tobias S. 04:05.7 (10.) <- 04:54.4 -> (02.) 09:00.1
4 #deceuninck ALMEIDA Joao 04:05.0 (09.) <- 04:59.8 -> (05.) 09:04.9
5 #deceuninck CAVAGNA Remi 04:06.5 (11.) <- 04:58.5 -> (04.) 09:05.0
6 #jumbo VAN EMDEN Jos 04:02.5 (04.) <- 05:03.3 -> (08.) 09:05.9
7 #deceuninck EVENEPOEL Remco 04:03.0 (05.) <- 05:03.5 -> (09.) 09:06.5
8 #qhubeka WALSCHEID Max 04:01.4 (03.) <- 05:05.5 -> (11.) 09:06.9
9 #israel BRANDLE Matthias 04:06.8 (13.) <- 05:03.1 -> (07.) 09:09.9
10 #ineos MOSCON Gianni 04:08.5 (25.) <- 05:02.2 -> (06.) 09:10.8
11 #astana VLASOV Aleksandr 04:06.6 (12.) <- 05:05.1 -> (10.) 09:11.7
12 #ef BETTIOL Alberto 04:03.1 (06.) <- 05:10.1 -> (26.) 09:13.2
13 #ineos CASTROVIEJO Jonathan 04:05.0 (08.) <- 05:09.8 -> (24.) 09:14.8
14 #israel DOWSETT Alex 04:07.4 (16.) <- 05:07.4 -> (14.) 09:14.8
15 #bora BODNAR Maciej 04:08.2 (22.) <- 05:07.0 -> (13.) 09:15.2
16 #movistar OLIVEIRA Nelson 04:08.5 (24.) <- 05:08.2 -> (16.) 09:16.7
16 #uae ULISSI Diego 04:07.6 (18.) <- 05:09.1 -> (20.) 09:16.7
18 #lotto KLUGE Roger 04:07.1 (15.) <- 05:10.3 -> (27.) 09:17.4
19 #israel DE MARCHI Alessandro 04:08.1 (21.) <- 05:09.7 -> (23.) 09:17.8
20 #astana FELLINE Fabio 04:09.7 (32.) <- 05:08.5 -> (18.) 09:18.2
21 #qhubeka POZZOVIVO Domenico 04:09.7 (31.) <- 05:08.8 -> (19.) 09:18.4
22 #uae CONTI Valerio 04:10.6 (42.) <- 05:08.1 -> (15.) 09:18.6
23 #bahrain TRATNIK Jan 04:12.3 (57.) <- 05:06.8 -> (12.) 09:19.1
23 #qhubeka CAMPENAERTS Victor 04:09.2 (28.) <- 05:09.9 -> (25.) 09:19.1
25 #bahrain CARUSO Damiano 04:08.7 (26.) <- 05:11.0 -> (32.) 09:19.7
26 #jumbo DEKKER David 04:04.8 (07.) <- 05:15.0 -> (45.) 09:19.8
27 #deceuninck HONORE Mikkel 04:10.6 (45.) <- 05:09.5 -> (21.) 09:20.1
28 #astana BATTISTELLA Samuele 04:10.6 (43.) <- 05:09.7 -> (22.) 09:20.2
29 #uae FORMOLO Davide 04:10.1 (35.) <- 05:10.4 -> (28.) 09:20.5
30 #astana SOBRERO Matteo 04:09.5 (30.) <- 05:11.3 -> (33.) 09:20.8
   
32 #ineos SIVAKOV Pavel 04:11.0 (51.) <- 05:10.5 -> (29.) 09:21.5
33 #ineos MARTINEZ Dani 04:14.8 (76.) <- 05:08.3 -> (17.) 09:23.2
   
35 #ef CARTHY Hugh John 04:12.7 (65.) <- 05:12.4 -> (36.) 09:25.1
36 #bahrain BILBAO Pello 04:13.8 (69.) <- 05:11.4 -> (34.) 09:25.2
37 #bikeexchange YATES Simon 04:10.8 (46.) <- 05:14.4 -> (42.) 09:25.2
   
40 #ineos BERNAL Egan 04:10.4 (38.) <- 05:15.8 -> (47.) 09:26.2
   
50 #trek NIBALI Vincenzo 04:12.6 (60.) <- 05:15.6 -> (46.) 09:28.2
   
52 #jumbo BENNETT George 04:10.9 (48.) <- 05:17.4 -> (56.) 09:28.3
   
56 #movistar SOLER Marc 04:10.2 (36.) <- 05:18.9 -> (68.) 09:29.1
   
73 #dsm HINDLEY Jai 04:14.7 (75.) <- 05:19.0 -> (70.) 09:33.7
   
77 #bahrain LANDA MEANA Mikel 04:15.7 (85.) <- 05:20.4 -> (77.) 09:36.2
   
91 #dsm BARDET Romain 04:17.9 (109.) <- 05:21.3 -> (82.) 09:39.2
   
104 #bora BUCHMANN Emanuel 04:16.1 (89.) <- 05:26.6 -> (119.) 09:42.7
   
108 #israel MARTIN Daniel 04:22.6 (140.) <- 05:21.5 -> (86.) 09:44.2
   
175 #androni CEPEDA Jefferson 04:30.5 (175.) <- 05:44.9 -> (172.) 10:15.3
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 08, 2021, 17:49
https://twitter.com/TeamIsraelSUN/status/1391069318536966144

:fp
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 08, 2021, 17:56
 I don't know why riders are left to do this when in a Grand Tour.
They have to deal with all the obstacles one now associates with urban areas. That's bad enough, huge cities are even more hazardous.
It's asking for trouble.

I'll put stage 2 up in a while. It's such an interesting stage, there's bound to be loads to discuss. :fp  :D
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 08, 2021, 18:29
Stage 2: Stupinigi – Novara 179 km

Sunday, May 9th, 12.40 CEST


The race starts near the Palazzina di Caccia di Stupinigi, which is a huge hunting lodge some 10 kilometres outside Turin’s city centre, traverses the Po valley to Novara.

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Technical info
The stage is flat, with just a few undulations in the central section. The route runs along the roads of the hinterland of Turin, reaches the Asti area and takes in a few short ascents (KOM points are awarded at Montechiaro d’Asti GPM4, 1.8 km at 5.5%). In the second section, the stage follows flat, wide and straight roads until the finish.

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Final kilometres
The final kilometres are completely flat, with a few roundabouts and one last right-hander approx. 1,500 m before the finish. In the closing kilometre, the road is wide, undulating a little as the route crosses an underpass, and narrowing briefly with 700 m to go, owing to a roundabout. The finish line sits on tarmac.

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What to expect:
The 2nd stage is not the flattest of the Giro, but still, it is an ideal opportunity for the sprinters to have it their way. Heading to Novara, we also have the Montechiaro d'Asti, a short climb of just under 2km where the fight between the breakaway (presumably) for the first KOM jersey will take place.

Favourites 2nd stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Caleb Ewan #lotto
:*:*:*:* Tim Merlier  #alpecin Elia Viviani  #cofidis
:*:*:* , Dylan Groenewegen  #jumbo Giacomo Nizzolo  #qhubeka
:*:* Peter Sagan  #bora Fernando Gaviria  #uae
:* Max Kanter  #dsm David Dekker  #jumbo Matteo Moschetti  #trek Max Walscheid  #qhubeka

Stupinigi (Nichelino)
Nichelino is a city with a population of 50,752 located in the Metropolitan Area of Turin.
The territory exploded with the economic boom under the push of the massive immigration attracted by the FIAT group.

Novara
Novara is a city rich in traditions, history and artistic masterpieces. Its true soul emerges in the historic centre, which revolves around the Basilica of San Gaudenzio and that daring structure that dominates everything, and that every­one looks at: Alessandro Antonelli’s Dome.

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Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: LukasCPH on May 09, 2021, 09:08
Stage 2: Stupinigi – Novara 179 km
Doesn't look like a stage where I'll miss much if I only watch the sprint ...
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 09, 2021, 18:43
Doesn't look like a stage where I'll miss much if I only watch the sprint ...

Guess what? You didn't. :D Literally nothing of note happened until the final sprint where either Juan Sebastián Molano or Max Richeze put their team leader, Fernando Gaviria into the barriers. :fp

Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 09, 2021, 20:08
tomorrow should be more fun, at least the latter part :)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 09, 2021, 20:20
Stage 3: Biella – Canale 190 km

Monday, May 10th, 12.20 CEST


The 3rd stage of the Giro d'Italia is a 190 kilometres race to Canale. The roads are flat, wide and straight forn well over 100kms, all the way to Asti. Starting in Canelli, the route becomes wavier and takes in three categorised climbs, with sharp gradients at point.

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Things tend to tilt upwards in the last 70 kilometres.

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A series of three hills within 30 kilometres are the first indication, but this is still a long way out.

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Past Alba, there is a steep climb with double-digit gradients in Guarene.

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Final kilometres
The stage finale is fairly complex. The route takes in a short, punchy climb up to Occhetti, with 5 km out, and then levels out until Canale. Four wide bends in the final kilometre lead all the way to the home straight, on tarmac road and on a slight incline.

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What to expect:
Stage three does feature some short but sharp ramps which should ensure that there is a battle to get into the breakaway, for those precious mountain points.
After winning stage one of the Tour de Romandie which also featured some ramps, Peter Sagan will have this one bookmarked.
Expect him to use his team to try to put the purest sprinters into difficulty. I expect an animated last hour or so of racing.

Favourites 3rd stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:*  Peter Sagan  #bora, Giacomo Nizzolo  #qhubeka
:*:*:*:* Caleb Ewan  #lotto, Andrea Venrame  #ag2r, Diego Ulissi  #uae, Patrick Bevin  #israel, Andrea Pasqualon  #iwg
:*:*:* Gianni Moscon  #ineos, Rémi Cavagna  #deceuninck, Matej Mohoric  #bahrain
:*:* Fabio Felline  #astana, Enrico Battaglin  #bardiani, Gianni Vermeersch  #alpecin
:* Juan Sebastián Molano  #uae, Jasper De Buyst  #lotto

Biella

Biella is one of the chief towns of Piedmont and it is situated at the foothills of Biella Alps.

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Canale

Canale has always been a hub between the city of Asti, that founded the town of Canale.
On these hills, whether they are Langhe, Roero or Monferrato, we cannot talk about gastronomy without mentioning the rarest and most precious product: tuber magnatum pico, the famous white truffle, which in nearby Alba has its “headquarters” with the International Fair that takes place in autumn.

(https://www.the-pasta-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/white-truffle-1.jpg)




Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Leadbelly on May 09, 2021, 20:58
I might even give a star to Evenepoel.

Deceuninck has no sprinter, so I'm expecting attacks certainly from Cavagna (if he doesn't get dropped), Frøllicks and maybe Remco. He picked up some bonuses today and while he's still full of joie de vivre velo on his return to racing, why not pull a fast one on a reduced peloton?
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 09, 2021, 21:04
the weather seems likely to be pretty bad as well. Could spice things up nicely
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 09, 2021, 21:45
the weather seems likely to be pretty bad as well. Could spice things up nicely

If not tomorrow, then Tuesday. Looks like it's going to pour down.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 09, 2021, 22:05
I might even give a star to Evenepoel.

Deceuninck has no sprinter, so I'm expecting attacks certainly from Cavagna (if he doesn't get dropped), Frøllicks and maybe Remco. He picked up some bonuses today and while he's still full of joie de vivre velo on his return to racing, why not pull a fast one on a reduced peloton?

Remi Cavagna is a true ace on dry roads flat, sideways, going up a little bit, round a turn et cetera.
Remi Cavagna on a solo attack, descending, on a day with wet, slippery roads is potentially drunk driving disastrous  :o

A couple of dry conditions examples of his legendary descending skills here:

https://youtu.be/dKiwDWnJUDA
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 10, 2021, 08:45
A key point for today's Route: intermediate sprint in Canelli is at 14:58 and the first hill climb of some serious proportions (to the Piancanelli) start quite immediately afterwards, scheduled to be done in approx 15 minutes.  That was the fastest alternative schedule, the slow one is about 15 minutes later at this point.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 10, 2021, 16:19
https://twitter.com/OutOfCycling/status/1391773691957202945

Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 10, 2021, 17:46
 No way they were catching him, Taco was full of beans today.
 Wanty had the winning recipe and that stage wrapped up.

https://twitter.com/IntermarcheWG/status/1391769390568312836
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 10, 2021, 19:58
Giro 2021:- Stage 4: Piacenza – Sestola 186 km

Tuesday, May 11th, 12.05 CEST

Starting from Piacenza, the riders will head south-east, initially following the Via Emilia until Parma and then heading into the Appennines, after 75 kilometres.

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Beginning with a gentle ascent to the intermediate sprint of Canossa, the road then heads upwards to Rossena, where the serious climbing begins.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/LWfXxArjmr4rALl1o8r3_210421-051131.jpg?v=20210421191131)

Technical Info:
A very demanding medium mountain stage with potential GC implications, the route takes in a brace of ascents (including two categorised climbs: Castello di Carpineti GPM3, 3.5 km at 8.6% and Montemolino GPM3, 8.6 km at 5.7%), with gradients exceeding 10% at points, on relatively narrow roads.

(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/profiles/ap/cb/giro-d-italia-2021-stage-4-climb-1d18e62071.jpg)(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/profiles/ap/cb/giro-d-italia-2021-stage-4-climb-n2-070b031351.jpg)

At 24 km to go another climb starts, uncategorized: Montecreto (3.7 km at 7.8%). Past Montecreto and Fanano, the route takes in the Colle Passerino climb, which ends at 2 km out.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/PV7k9IC3jRn4v42GlY2E_210421-051130.jpg?v=20210421191130)

Final kilometres
The last 6 km are very demanding. Starting in Fanano, the Colle Passerino climb runs on narrow roadway, with gradients exceeding 10% over extended stretches, and lengthy peaks topping out at 13-14%. At the ‑2 km mark, the road descends for approx. 800 metres and then rises again with easy gradients. The route runs on undulating, while the finish sits on tarmac.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/5gLkYcf2snMG2tP7qOd3_210421-051140.jpg?v=20210421191140)

What to expect:
Stage four is the first of the mountain stages and features 3000 metres of climbing to Sestola. With up and down terrain for the final 100km, the race may be difficult for the peloton to control and we will most likely see a string of attacks. The final ascent, the Colle Passerino, is 4.3km and at a very tough gradient of 9.5%.
If all this wasn't hard enough, so early in the race, the weather is forecast to be very wet, which will make the many descents extremely testing.
So, I think this is a stage for the hunter/chancer, with the GC favourites probably opting for safety first. However, after state of play after stage 3, there are few obvious suspect far enough down on GC.

Favourites 4th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia
Ooooh errrrr mmmmm

:*:*:*:*:* Thomas De Gendt,
:*:*:*:* Simon Carr, Felix Großschartner, Jan Tratnik
:*:*:* Kobe Goossens, Pello Bilbao, Davide Formolo, Bauke Mollema, Romain Bardet
:*:* Simon Yates, Remco Evenepoel, João Almeida
:* Matthias Brändle, Giovanni Visconti

Piacenza
Located at the junction of four different regions, on the southern bank of the river Po, the city is the gate of Emilia, surrounded by the hills and mountains of the Apennines. The heart of the historical town lies in its main square.

(https://www.collinsdictionary.com/images/full/piacenza_558179602_1000.jpg)

Sestola
Sestola, a renowned winter tourist resort that is easily accessible from Modena, Pistoia and Bologna. The municipal area beyond Lake Ninfa and Passo del Lupo is part of the High Modenese Apennine Regional Park.

(https://peakvisor.com/img/news/apennines-dolomiti-lucane.jpg)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 10, 2021, 21:14
This may be un-understandably off topic to some, but do I get to decide on the soundtrack?  :angel

https://youtu.be/TzFnYcIqj6I

or

https://youtu.be/D1ZYhVpdXbQ

 :D
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: LukasCPH on May 11, 2021, 15:22
Literally nothing of note happened until the final sprint where either Juan Sebastián Molano or Max Richeze put their team leader, Fernando Gaviria into the barriers. :fp
And as a reward, the team won't give him a new contract ... :fp

Frøllicks
Honoré!
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 11, 2021, 17:23
   Virtual GC after Stage 4:
 Vlasov, Evenepoel +4, Carthy +14, Bernal +15 Landa +25, Yates +25, Pozzovivo +41, Martin +44, Sivakov +44, Nibali +51, Soler +52, Buchmann +1:05....................








................Almeida 4:14 :fp
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 11, 2021, 19:18
It was another wet day for the riders on stage four of the Giro d’Italia 2021 and for the first couple of hours it look possible that we wouldn't get to see anything of the stage. Apparently it was quite the bun fight to get in the break of the day.
Ineos couldn't be arsed to chase and went as far as to have the Maglia Rosa do much of the donkey work. The second half of the stage turned out to be every bit as tough as expected, with the cold and sodden conditions adding to the fatigue.
Wanty made an early break for a second of glory, with Taaramäe and Hermans going on a double headed attack along with Juul-Jensen and right up until the very last few kms, the Estonian was wearing virtual pink. It was the eventual pink, De Marchi who chased hard on the final climb and caught the two out front, to rain on Rein's parade.
Dombrowski dropped everyone and was able to then solo to the line for victory, but De Marchi kept the gap small enough to take second and the overall lead of the race.

Behind, Landa was the first of the favourites to have a go on the attack, Vlasov followed, then Egan Bernal jumped across with Hugh Carthy  but there was no sign of race favourites Simon Yates or Remco Evenepoel. The Bernal group eventually finished 11 seconds ahead of the group containing Yates and Evenepoel to take a slim advantage on the first climbing day of the 2021 Giro.
In the meantime, two GC contenders fell away: George Bennett suffered serious damage to his hopes, but worst of all, João Almeida, who lost over 4 minutes to his rivals and already appears out of contention.





Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 11, 2021, 20:46
Me again.

Stage 5: Modena – Cattolica 175 km

Wednesday, May 12th, 13.10 CEST


(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/AbEMbzz4UWjVDyU89CAL_220421-083047.jpg?v=20210422103047)

Technical Info:

A pan-flat stage running almost entirely along the ss. 9 Via Emilia, on straight and mostly wide roads. As the stage passes through several urban areas, roundabouts, traffic islands and street furniture will be found along the route. Lovely!

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/XDv8ng9Yi4NL5c84uqOO_220421-083039.jpg?v=20210422103039)

Final kilometres
The final kilometres are raced on city roads. A brace of roundabouts and bends (3 left-handers and one right-hander) leads into the home straight (approx. 900 m), on tarmac road.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/e33EFFofxTBQKrjawwar_220421-083042.jpg?v=20210422103042)

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Oy0zQNZI21MLLMnqGcTI_220421-083049.jpg?v=20210422103049)

What to expect:
Mass sprint all but a certainty. One for the pure sprinters, such as Ewan, Viviani, Tim Merlier and maybe even the returning Dylan Groenewegen.

Favourites 5th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Nobody stands this far out.
:*:*:*:*  Tim Merlier, Elia Viviani
:*:*:* Caleb Ewan, Dylan Groenewegen, Giacomo Nizzolo
:*:* Fernando Gaviria, Matteo Moschetti, Peter Sagan
:*  David Dekker, Max Kanter

Modena
Modena is a land of engines with big brands such as Ferrari, Maserati and Pagani and it has also long been known for its cuisine and is a long-standing status as a food capital. Prosciutto di Parma, Parmigiano Reggiano and Aceto Balsamico di Modena. Need I say more?

(https://img.ev.mu/images/attractions/5552/960x640/282788.jpg)

Cattolica
Cattolica is located on the border between Romagna and Marche at the foot of Monte San Bartolo, it is a long standing seafaring and hospitality tradition.
The “Miacetto” and the “Bilzulà” are traditional food speciailties of Cattolica. The first is a dried fruit oven cooked cake enriched with honey, cytrus peel, sugar and middling, without yeast.

(https://www.cattolicahotels.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/ricetta-del-miacetto.jpg)

The “Bilzulà” was the livelihood of fishermen when they were at sea, a sort of
bisciut-bread they brought with them during long fishing trips. Its doughnut shape was very useful because it was hung first to the belt of the trousers and then high in the hold to prevent a wave, carrying water in the bottom of the hull, soaked it.
Interesting, no?


Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 11, 2021, 21:15
with another sprint approaching, a quick throwback to yesterday:

Cimolai: (gt) "We didn't have the right gaps - says the Friulian who finished second - and I didn't even know that Van der Hoorn was still ahead of us. Luckily I didn't raise my arms , I never wanted to be remembered as one of those runners. I'm fine, but I would have preferred to be beaten second by Sagan or Viviani, than for letting someone win like that. I don't have many opportunities to win, in six days I'll become a dad . It was going to be a perfect day. The moral? We were chickens!"

https://bici.pro/giro-italia/aleotti-stanco-battistella-stremato-i-due-volti-della-fatica/

may be a bit of a "heat of the moment" kind of comment, though. They all have team radio now, so if there's really anyone to blame, then the #israel DS.

And pictures of his heavily pregnant wife were all over his Instagram for the past months, so I was already wondering about his plans for the 2nd half of the Giro. I guess this confirms that he will spend them with the family.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 12, 2021, 17:02
What an absolute shiite stage.
I gave up on this total snorefest 25kms out and went out, only to come back to total carnage and find one of the most attacking riders in the GC, down and seemingly out.

Not sure whether Sivakov is unlucky, a poor bike handler, or a combination of both.
Landa clearly hit the marshal, but the real problem is town centre sprint finishes and all the street furniture.

Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 12, 2021, 17:27
Landa clearly hit the marshal, but the real problem is town centre sprint finishes and all the street furniture.

not that it makes much of a difference, but I actually think Dombrowski did, and thereby crashed into Landa. But yeah... really crap stage.

Immediately after the stage Eisel came up with some "take time with 15k to go" ideas again, though, which I really don't see as a good solution either. Neither did Aldag on German ES, although he works for #bahrain
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 12, 2021, 18:53
Stage 6: Grotte di Frasassi – Ascoli Piceno (S.Giacomo) 160 km

Thursday, May 13th, 12.35 CEST


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Running almost entirely through the inland, across the Apennines, the stage is demanding in both course and profile. At 160 kilometres long, it features 3,400 vertical metres of climbing in several ascents, including two categorised climbs. The main obstacles along the course are the ones typically found in urban areas. The final climb is approx. 15 km long.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/BiKmrcatOqpmulT6HoBA_220421-091044.jpg?v=20210422111044)

The Climbs:
At km 77, the road will go up to the first categorized climb of the day, a very serious one.
Forca di Gualdo: GPM2, 10.4 km at 7.4%

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/w6yNVGNRjlcXmcG0qSlP_220421-091058.jpg?v=20210422111058)

(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/profiles/ap/ef/giro-d-italia-2021-stage-6-climb-n2-35933239fc.jpg)

S.Giacomo: GPM2, 15.5km at 6.1%
Surprisingly the longest climb of this Giro and it's on stage 6. It features a first 10 km section at 5.5% average, before ramping up for the last 5 km at 7.6%.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Zzse5jrp6TaWhqSQF0oO_220421-091100.jpg?v=20210422111101)

Final Kilometres
The final kilometres are entirely uphill. Past Ascoli Piceno, the route rises steadily for 10kms at around 5% up to Colle San Marco, before ramping up for the last 5 km at 7.6% all the way to the finish, on tarmac road.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/tttqrDRCe1UNrefaWEx0_220421-091053.jpg?v=20210422111053)

What to expect:
The route is demanding, but not extremely tough. Chances are that the breakaway will get some leeway and fight for the stage honours.
However should a GC rider feel like testing his rivals on the San Giacomo and we will see a different scenario develop.

Favourites 6th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia(actually it's more like a pin in the startlist)

:*:*:*:*:* .....................................
:*:*:*:* Mikel Nieve, Felix Großschartner
:*:*:* Thomas De Gendt, Gianluca Brambilla, Ruben Guerreiro
:*:* Simon Yates, Daniel Martin, Egan Bernal, Romain Bardet, Bauke Mollema
:* Jefferson Cepeda, Nicolas Roche, Matteo Fabbro, João Almeida, Valerio Conti

Grotte di Frasassi

The village of Genga is a small medieval castle built on the rock located in the heart of the Marche. Genga owes its national and international notoriety to Frasassi Caves, destination every year of hundreds of thousands of tourists from all over the world.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6BAdomS2D7A/maxresdefault.jpg)

Ascoli Piceno (San Giacomo)

Ascoli Piceno is an Italian town of 46 677 inhabitants. The historic center is built almost entirely in travertine and in it there is the Renaissance. The city is located in the southern part of the Marche region and is 28 km from the Adriatic Sea. In the confluence area between the Tronto river and the Castellano torrent , surrounded on three sides by mountains , including the Ascension mountain , the San Marco hill and the mountain of flowers . Its territory is surrounded by two protected natural areas : the Gran Sasso and Monti della Laga national park to the south and the Monti Sibillini national park to the north -west.

(https://admin.pettinaviaggi.it/images/viaggi/b1067a1d-ba98-4e3f-bb2c-19b0f4148656_ASCOLI-PICENO-extra-big-9-526.jpg)


Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 12, 2021, 19:25
not that it makes much of a difference, but I actually think Dombrowski did, and thereby crashed into Landa. But yeah... really crap stage.

Immediately after the stage Eisel came up with some "take time with 15k to go" ideas again, though, which I really don't see as a good solution either. Neither did Aldag on German ES, although he works for #bahrain

That's a ridiculous idea as all it does is move the bun fight for position that causes many of the crashes to as much as 25kms out.  Where does it end? It makes the race a mockery.

Anyhow, Sivakov confirmed out now by Ineos twitter. He has a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 13, 2021, 09:31
What to expect:
The route is demanding, but not extremely tough. Chances are that the breakaway will get some leeway and fight for the stage honours.
However should a GC rider feel like testing his rivals on the San Giacomo and we will see a different scenario develop.

Favourites 6th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia(actually it's more like a pin in the startlist)

:*:*:*:*:* .....................................
:*:*:*:* Mikel Nieve, Felix Großschartner
:*:*:* Thomas De Gendt, Gianluca Brambilla, Ruben Guerreiro
:*:* Simon Yates, Daniel Martin, Egan Bernal, Romain Bardet, Bauke Mollema
:* Jefferson Cepeda, Nicolas Roche, Matteo Fabbro, João Almeida, Valerio Conti

I'd tend to say Mollema deserves more than two stars. He mentioned this stage as a target he deliberately lost time for, and also that the team situation may develop more towards riding for Nibali if he stays up with the best over the weekend. So it could basically be one of his last chances to go for it.

For the GC guys, it'll be interesting to see if there's much of a selection. The final climb doesn't look overly hard to me. More like Dan Martin terrain. Maybe even Ulissi?
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: LukasCPH on May 13, 2021, 11:13
Where does it end? It makes the race a mockery.
A stage will count for GC only if it has at least X metres of elevation, a mountaintop finish, or 2/3s of teams agree on it beforehand. Otherwise, everyone will get the same time as the stage winner. :P :S :fp
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 13, 2021, 13:40
I'd tend to say Mollema deserves more than two stars. He mentioned this stage as a target he deliberately lost time for, and also that the team situation may develop more towards riding for Nibali if he stays up with the best over the weekend. So it could basically be one of his last chances to go for it.

For the GC guys, it'll be interesting to see if there's much of a selection. The final climb doesn't look overly hard to me. More like Dan Martin terrain. Maybe even Ulissi?

I would definitely add a star for him, now he's in the break!
On the same theme, I was asked elsewhere why I hadn't included Hugh Carthy (lack of a sprint) and said if I had thought about in after Landa's crash I would add as a decent bet for the break and someone who can climb, Gino Mäder. ;) 
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 13, 2021, 18:43
 Another day in paradise for the fish, or a plod through purgatory for the peloton. More water in the Rai electrics than Michael Schär's bidon meant another day of long spells without race coverage. Fortunately, we got to see most of the action.
The riders started out in sunshine on some testing terrain and the battle for the breakaway to some time to serve up 6, then finally 8 riders.
Matej Mohorič worked tirelessly for young Gino Mäder resulting in those invaluable 12 winning seconds at the finish.
Behind, the battle of the GC contenders saw last years runner up Hindley as the next challenger to fall by the wayside. A few others struggled, when Egan Bernal attacked and took Evenepoel, Ciccone and Dan Martin along for the ride.
However, the greatest damage was done, not on a climb, but in the high valley, mid race. Here the wind blew and Ineos, in the shape of Ganna, and Castroviejo destroyed half the peloton and the maglia rosa in the process.


Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: LukasCPH on May 13, 2021, 19:56
First *hu #rosa as #groupama Attila Valter takes the race lead! :)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 13, 2021, 20:45
Stage 7: Notaresco – Termoli 181 km
Friday, May 14th, 12.50 CEST


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The riders travel from Notaresco to Termoli, a small town on the southern Adriatic coast that’s famous for its beaches, fortifications and narrow streets.
A flat start, then a hilly middle to the stage with a flat finale. After a short stretch in the hinterland, the route follows the Adriatic coast up to Chieti (KOM). A brace of bends and undulations then leads back onto the coast, all the way to Termoli.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/iaGyH1YoS4D1pcspiwmW_220421-095636.jpg?v=20210422115637)

The Catagorised Climb:

(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/profiles/ap/ea/giro-d-italia-2021-stage-7-climb-1b8f178d33.jpg)

Final kilometres
The last 3 km are raced on urban roads. After leaving the coastal road, the route takes in a 200 m kick with 10-12% gradients, and then continues on a slight incline all the way to the finish. The route takes in a few sharp bends, and narrows briefly at the ‑800 m mark, eventually merging onto the home straight on tarmac road.

(https://cdn.cyclingstage.com/images/giro-italy/2021/stage-7-finish-route.jpg)

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hkftEvbBaht4Ljj19JS6_220421-095648.jpg?v=20210422115648)

What to expect:
With the hardest climbs in the first part of the stage, around Chieti, with more than 100 kilometres remaining, a sprint finish is the most probable outcome in a race. With only the single climb counting in the KoM competition, expect there to be a modest breakaway.
However, an uphill kick of 12% appears inside the last 2 kilometres, which will surely stir up a chancer or two, who will try to upset the sprint outcome.

Favourites 7th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Caleb Ewan, Peter Sagan
:*:*:*:* Giacomo Nizzolo, Fernando Gaviria, Rémi Cavagna
:*:*:* Diego Ulissi, Patrick Bevin, Enrico Battaglin
:*:* Davide Cimolai, Valerio Conti, Gianni Vermeersch
:* Tim Merlier, Andrea Pasqualon, Simone Consonni

Notaresco

Notaresco is a town and comune in the Teramo province in the Abruzzo region of eastern central Italy. It has population of just under 3000. The layout of the town is typical of a medieval settlement which includes thick city walls accompanied by high and narrow windows.

(https://www.inabruzzo.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/notaresco.jpg)

Termoli

Termoli is the main coastal town in Molise. It stretches over ten kilometres of coastline and is undeniably one of the key urban areas in the region thanks to its economy, which focuses on three core areas: tourism, industry and fishing. The town is home to about 33 000 people, and its main feature is the old quarter which looks out over the wide “Sant’Antonio” beach from the top of a fortified promontory.

(https://www.e-borghi.com/public/borghi/11_04_19-05_18_24-jb501b0f513203a4415d47329b2a6020.jpg)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 14, 2021, 07:33
then a hilly middle to the stage with a flat finale. After a short stretch in the hinterland, the route follows the Adriatic coast up to Chieti (KOM). A brace of bends and undulations then leads back onto the coast, all the way to Termoli.

any chance for a team like #bora Bora to try to drop the sprinters in that part? It wouldn't be the first time they try something like that

From Chieti climb to the intermediate sprint:



still over 80k to go afterwards, though
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 14, 2021, 08:49
You almost had me there, until I noticed the elevation profile was in feet and miles and not meters and kilometers. Didn't know you germans had converted back to the old imperial units of the British.  :P

--

I think those hills are too far away from the finish line for that tactic to be effective (if the rest of the team stays with the sprinter they most likely can pace him back to the peloton afterwards). If they had continued up past Chieti  it would be different...  :) 
(Prato di Tivo and Blockhaus are both up the road there if I am not remembering this wrong)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 14, 2021, 09:15
yeah, no idea why it does this feet and miles thing when you embed a Ride with GPS route.

I was thinking about the Tour de France stage to Lavour last year, where Bora did the same, although it also ended with basically 100k without any more real difficulties:

(https://www.procyclingstats.com/images/profiles/ap/cb/tour-de-france-2020-stage-7-profile-d44aaffa92.jpg)

But in the end, it may be easy, yeah. And there's probably a better chance tomorrow anyway, with the climb closer to the finish - but today they could have a surprise effect on their side
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 14, 2021, 09:35
unfortunalely #qhubeka Domenico Pozzovivo has to abandon the Giro after crashing during yesterday's stage

https://twitter.com/QhubekaAssos/status/1393118333541748736
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 14, 2021, 09:38
Note on timing:
If your day is packed with other things to do, it may be worth noticing that the possibly tactically interesting Chieti section of the course can match with a very very late and a bit long lunch break starting at about 14:10, at which point the peloton will be in the plains below the climb to Chieti and we can see Bora are pushing the speed to start the climb in good position.  The first climb is the hardest one and if they are not going fast up that one, they probably will rest their aggressive tactics for another day.

The final 30 km  is expected to start at 16:30 km..


Now, did anyone check the wind forecast?
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 14, 2021, 09:53
Now, did anyone check the wind forecast?

yeah, should be a headwind for the majority of the day, with only some short crosswind sections

(https://i.imgur.com/vb48tOQ.jpg)

so if at all, the ~10k section after the intermediate sprint would probably be most interesting to go for it. Or maybe the short stretch at the ocean 30k before the finish
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 14, 2021, 17:27
 Just the results today. Nothing much happened and I am going out in a while.

Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 14, 2021, 17:41
Stage 8: Foggia – Guardia Sanframondi 170 km

Saturday, May 15th, 12.40 CEST


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Technical Info:
This stage runs across the Apennines for 170 kilometres, from Foggia to an uphill finale in Guardia Sanframondi. The route takes in a further 3,400 metres of climbing. It features one single lengthy climb, and a steep, challenging kick just before the finish.
At first, the route runs along fast and mainly straight roads all the way to Campobasso. The riders then reach the Matese Mountains to negotiate the Bocca della Selva climb (over 20 km), followed by a lengthy descent that ends 10 km before the finish. The route then rises all the way to the finish, with a sharp kick before homing in.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/MZ9HMqvkHtqBDVE8g0ty_220421-102924.jpg?v=20210422122924)

The Climbs:

At 70 km to go, where the road starts pointing up to the first categorized climb of the day.

Bocca della Selva: GPM2, 18.9 km at 4.6%

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/nSeNZxlpWZzUZ6rgjqvN_220421-102934.jpg?v=20210422122934)

Final kilometres
The closing climb is approx. 3 km long. The gradient hovers around 10% for the first 2 km, with sharper peaks. The pitch returns to milder gradients in Guardia Sanframondi, and then kicks up again with 400 m to go, after a left-hander. The home straight is on tarmac road and on a slight incline.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/CaJuuDDjOTOWK5a1QhuF_220421-102932.jpg?v=20210422122932)

What to expect:
A sprint finish is not to be expected in stage 8. On the contrary, a number of intermediate climbs will make it a hard day for the fast men. GC riders have little to gain on the road from Foggia to Guardia Sanframondi. So, stage 8 is perfect for a group of attackers with climbing legs to have it their way.

Favourites 8th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Alberto Bettiol, Alessandro De Marchi
:*:*:*:* Thomas De Gendt,  Felix Großschartner, Gianluca Brambilla
:*:*:* Giovanni Visconti, Nicolas Roche, Luis León Sánchez
:*:* Rémi Cavagna, Valerio Conti, , Matteo Fabbro
:* Michael Storer, Jonathan Caicedo, Jefferson Cepeda

Foggia
Foggia lies in the heart of the Apulia Tableland. Shaken by the terrible earthquake in 1731 and the bombings of the Second World War, Foggia has risen from the ashes more than once.

(https://wiki.goonitaly.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Puglia-Foggia-823x463.jpg)

Guardia Sanframondi
In the heart of Samnium, in the Province of Benevento, there is a road that goes up the hill, from the small hamlet of Castelvenere towards Guardia Sanframondi. Guardia Sanframondi is a village of Lombard origin, perched on a hill whose summit is dominated by the Norman Castle built in the 12th century. The village mostly dating back to the 15th century has a medieval urban plan.

(https://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/6sC052n17ps80pgaHoSO_160421-032332.jpg?v=20210416172333)
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 15, 2021, 10:46
Just the results today. Nothing much happened and I am going out in a while.



it made #lotto happy though, by the look of it ;)

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jasper-de-buyst-of-belgium-harm-vanhoucke-of-belgium-kobe-goossens-of-picture-id1317995734?s=2048x2048)

don't think I have seen a Champs Élysée #sky like celebration on a sprint stage before
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 15, 2021, 17:50
 Today's stage was like watching a great, slow burn thriller, only in reverse.
What started out looking as an all action epic, ended up a battle among relatively small fry for stage honours, while the GC boys, but for a slight crash at the end, took the day off.

 The attacks came in earnest soon after the flag drop, the peloton splitting as it chased down various attempted moves off the front. The pink jersey Attila Valter was caught out in one of these splits. More than 50km later, the successful breakaway formed. The escapees were Nikias Arndt (DSM), Kobe Goossens (Lotto-Soudal), Nelson Oliveira (Movistar), Alexis Gougeard (Ag2r Citroën), Victor Lafay (Cofidis), Giovanni Carboni (Bardiani-CSF-Faizane) and Francesco Gavazzi (Eolo-Kometa) and Fernando Gaviria (UAE Team Emirates). Victor Campenaerts (Qhubeka-Assos)  also made his way across after a lengthy chase.
The race then settled down before the big climb of the day and with it, a kind of stalemate. Heading into the final climb, Campenaerts attacked and took the intermediate sprint, Carboni made it across to him. Carboni leaft Campenaerts behind inside the final 3km with Gougeard in third on the road but not for long, as Cofidis’ Victor Lafay made his successful bid for victory. EOLO-Kometa’s Gavazzi caught and past Carboni, taking second, with Arndt third.

Oh and how's this for a coincidence?
Cofidis's last GT win was Stage 6 of the Vuelta, 2019, won by Jesus Herrada, who had Cofidis's other win yesterday, at the Challenge Mallorca.


Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 16, 2021, 07:44
Stage 9: Castel di Sangro – Campo Felice 158 km

Sunday, May 16th, 12.15 CEST

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This will be the queen stage across the Apennines of Abruzzo. From the start until Celano, the route takes in a succession of long climbs on moderately wide roads, followed by sometimes technical descents. Past Ovindoli (categorised climb), the route enters the Piana delle Rocche and becomes somewhat easier, up to Rocca di Cambio. Here, the course makes for Campo Felice, taking in the closing climb.

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There are several ascents, including 4 categorised climbs, Passo Godi (GPM2, 13.9 km at 4.1%),

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Forca Caruso (GPM3, 12.7 km at 4.5%),

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Ovindoli (GPM2, 12.4 km at 5.1%)

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and Campo Felice (GPM1, 6 km at 6%) .

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There is also a further climb of 11'5km at a 5% average that has not be catagorised. All in all, the route takes in 3,400 vertical metres, while the finale at Campo Felice is extremely steep and unpaved in the last kilometres.

Final kilometres
The final climb is nearly 6 km long, and the gradients are not very sharp. After a long, well-lit tunnel stretching from 3 to 2 km remaining to the finish, the final 1,600 metres, as well as the home straight, are on unpaved roads, with peaks topping out at 14% over the last 500 m.

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What to expect:
A GC clash of sorts is on the cards, but it is quite likely that the winner of this battle will not be rewarded with a stage win. Although being far from flat, the route is not extremely challenging until the last ascent, which is perfect terrain for a strong breakaway to gain a comfortable lead. So, expect a scenario whereby there are separate attacks from within two groups, with the winner is likely to emerge from the breakaway.

Favourites 9th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Bauke Mollema, Ruben Guerreiro,
:*:*:*:* Simon Yates, Egan Bernal, Remco Evenepoel,  Alberto Bettiol
:*:*:* Marc Soler, Hugh Carthy, Aleksandr Vlasov,  Daniel Martin, Giulio Ciccone
:*:* Davide Formolo, Pello Bilbao, Romain Bardet, Hugh Carthy
:* George Bennett, João Almeida, Gianluca Brambilla, Alessandro De Marchi

Castel di Sangro
Castel di Sangro is a centre of great summer and winter tourist activities. Known for the wealth of its sports facilities, the city hosts sporting events for amateurs and professionals.
The great out-of-town attraction of Castel di Sangro is the Abruzzo trans-Siberian, a fascinating experience, panoramic and at low speed, aboard a vintage train with restored carriages dating back to the early twentieth century.

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Campo Felice (Rocca di Cambio)
Rocca di Cambio on the ridge at the foot of Montecagnois is the highest town in Abruzzo. The Rocche plateau between the Velino and Sirente massif and has an elevation of 1433 m. The area is encompassed within the only regional park in Abruzzo. Up to 50 years ago Rocca di Cambio lived on menager agriculture, on small sheep and cattle farms. Only from the beginning of the fifties, in the local economy, the first signs of a positive change were from the Municipality since 1951 for the revaluation of the historic center, to the road system, to the hotel sector and to tourism development.

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Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 16, 2021, 09:25
the final 1,600 metres, as well as the home straight, are on unpaved roads, with peaks topping out at 14% over the last 500 m

here is a video of it, looking very rough (starting at ~22 minutes, from May 1st)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO9InIid_WQ&t=1312s

while it looks relatively good here: (https://www.laquilablog.it/la-tappa-del-giro-ditalia-sullo-sterrato-di-campo-felice/) (May 11th)

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so I'd guess they have done some roadworks on it, making it less challenging?

Not really a category 1 climb, tbh, if this is the case
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: t-72 on May 16, 2021, 11:25
I also don’t quite get the category 1 assignment for the final climb. It is less than 200m vertical, that is usually not even categorized on Giro mountain stages (cat. 2 in the tour :P)
Of course there’s the unpaved nature of it which could be challenging for road racing equipment (tires for climbers, weight saving vs puncture resistance).
It is a typical day where one of the big riders drop from gc contention due to mostly bad luck, but also, equipment selection and priorities. Someone like Richie Porte or Geraint Thomas. #ineos Bernal, are you ready for this?

Support vehicles will usually not be easily available at this point in the race, we may see some big teams with “zone-hoppers” (except there aren’t really any zones) like in the classics, offering wheels for replacement along the roadside, if that is permitted so close to the finish line.

Light climbers are less favored on steep unpaved roads as traction becomes a challenge. #jumbo Tobias Foss seems to be a few percentage points down on the performance scale, as far as pure climbing is discussed. (He isn’t able to keep up with accelerations on the last few kilometers). However, he is quite familiar with gravel roads, and traction may be less of a problem for him.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 16, 2021, 18:37
 The opening 60km of the race were a relentless battle to form a breakaway, as a countless number of attacks were fired from the bunch. Eventually a 22-rider break formed, including Damiano Caruso, Gino Mäder, and Matej Mohorič from Bahrain, along with Daniel Martínez from Ineos Grenadiers. However, it stalled somewhat when Matej Mohorič lost control during a high-speed left-hand turn and went down hard, being sent over the handlebars and landing on his head. It was awful to watch. Mohorič abandoned the race and was stretchered away to an ambulance.
 Shortly after the descent the breakaway group were reeled back in and caught by UAE. A new 17-rider breakaway formed, which was able to maintain an advantage of three minutes over the bunch. Onto the penultimate categorised climb of the day, Ovindoli, and the break began to collapse on the gradients as Ulissi attacked. With 28km to the finish just seven riders remained out front, including Bouwman, Carr and Bouchard. It was Simon Carr who next launched his move and was followed by Bouchard. Carr eventually had to drop back to re-join the rest of the break while Bouchard pressed on alone. Jumbo-Visma’s Koen Bouwman then closed down the Frenchman, but the GC group were surging behind, as Ineos pushed hard with Maglia Rosa, Valter finally losing contact.
 Bernal launched a huge attack with only Giulio Ciccone (Trek-Segafredo) able to follow. He ripped past Bouwman and Bouchard and into the lead on the stage, going onto victory. Behind, the rest of the GC hopefuls were left to pick up the pieces.





Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: blutto on May 16, 2021, 19:01
...MV....really appreciating all the work you've put into this...chapeau..

Cheers
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 16, 2021, 20:30
Stage 10: L’Aquila – Foligno 139 km

Monday, May 17th, 13.40 CEST


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Technical Info:
The shortest stage of this edition, rolling stage with a pan-flat finale. The route first takes in climbs up to Sella di Corno and Forca di Arrone, and then tackles one last ascent up to Valico della Somma (awarding KOM points). The route eventually levels out in the final part, running on broad and mostly straight roads. As the stage passes through several urban areas, roundabouts, traffic islands and street furniture will be found along the route.

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Final kilometres
The final kilometres are quite straight, up to 2,000 m to the finish. Here the route features a right-hand bend, immediately followed by two left-hand bends that lead to the home stretch (at 1,300 m out), with just a slight half-turn 500 m before the finish line, on tarmac road.

The shortest stage of this edition.

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The Climbs:
Valico della Somma: GPM4, 6.7 km at 5%

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What to expect:
The 2014 Giro d’Italia saw virtually the same stage, but with an extension in the first part. Back then, Nacer Bouhanni outsprinted Giacomo Nizzolo and Luka Mezgec in the streets of Foligno. With few opportunities in the race, expect the sprinters to have this one marked down on their dance cards.

Favourites 10th stage 2021 Giro d’Italia

:*:*:*:*:* Elia Viviani, Tim Merlier
:*:*:*:* Fernando Gaviria, Dylan Groenewegen, Giacomo Nizzolo
:*:*:* Peter Sagan, Matteo Moschetti, Davide Cimolai
:*:* Max Kanter, Filippo Fiorelli
:* Riccardo Minali, Lawrence Naesen

L'Aquila
L’Aquila (means the eagle) is the capital city of Abruzzo region, placed at 714 m of altitude. The city is situated on a hillside in the Aterno river’s valley and it is surrounded by the Appenini mountains, with the highest peak Gran Sasso d’Italia (2.912 m) to the North-east.

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Foligno
Lying halfway between the more renowned Perugia and Assisi, the city is an excellent destination.
Located along the Via Flaminia – one of the main roads leading to Rome – the ancient Fulginium, currently Foligno has a rich history and culture, along with plenty of culinary traditions. It sure deserves a visit to please your eyes, clear your mind and treat your taste buds.

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Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: search on May 16, 2021, 20:44
with the rest day to come, I guess this time teams like #bora Bora and #israel ISUN will really ride a bit harder on the climbs, to prevent the pure sprinters from making it to the finish.

They need to do it here:



So not overly tough, and still 40k to go from the top.
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 16, 2021, 20:50
Mmmm, I reckon that's some wishful thinking there, Search.

Bernal today did the opposite to the famous Pozzato, Roma Maxima salute:


https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1393985874312978436
Title: Re: Giro d'Italia - Stage Previews & Discussion - Week 1
Post by: Mellow Velo on May 17, 2021, 19:53
 Well, for a boring sprint stage, it turned out to be quite fun, didn't it? Although I doubt the five breakaway men, who had to work ever so slightly harder than expected to rack up those all important breakaway kms, will see it that way.
Simon Pellaud (Androni), Taco van der Hoorn (Intermarché), Umberto Marengo (Bardiani), Samuele Rivi (Eolo-Kometa), and Kobe Goossens (Lotto-Soudal). They managed to pull out a maximum gap of three minutes. Four manage to hold on until the base of the final climb up the Valico della Somma with 43km to go, with Bora-Hansgrohe now repeating the tactic of stage 7 of the Tour of ramping up the pace so high on the series of small climbs.
One after another, the fast men fell out of the back of the bunch and even a gallant chase by Giacomo Nizzolo and his spare engine, Victor Campenaerts could close the gap, as ISN for Davide Cimolai, joined Bora at the front.
Then came the intermediate sprint for bonus seconds an even that was exciting. Deceuninck - Quick-Step came up for Evenepoel but Ineos Grenadiers were alive to the danger. Bernal followed his team-mate and world time trial champion, Filippo Ganna who upped the pace with Evenepoel desperately trying to close the gap. But when Ganna pulled over Evenepoel continued his effort with Bernal unable to follow. Moscon also couldn’t come round so it was left for Narváez to come through and take the three seconds with Evenepoel taking two and Bernal one.
The race went back to the sprinter teams as Bora-Hansgrohe retook control. Team DSM came up into the final two kilometres and led under the flamme rouge before their sprinter, Max Kanter, crashed. UAE's Juan Sebastián Molano opening up the lead out with Sagan quickly jumping onto his wheel into the final bend before opening up a vicious acceleration which held off Gaviria and a fast-finishing Cimolai.