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Title: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2021, 19:48
(https://scontent.fbrs4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p320x320/119857281_618773785474673_3643137481117473251_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=dCrpBPa2sbYAX9I1_rI&_nc_ht=scontent.fbrs4-1.fna&oh=d80c3c10054b4726ee2a7e218b4c99a3&oe=615DC399)

Under two weeks to go.

After last year's truncated effort, it's good to have the U23 and Juniors back.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2021, 19:50
#teambe

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-l0XkOWQAAs_aT?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-l0rqpWEAUiP3w?format=jpg&name=small)

No GVA or Gilbert.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 06, 2021, 20:14
#teambe
No GVA or Gilbert.

…but Mr Bambi on ice himself for the road race?  :S

There´s got to be a long list of Belgian more likely to get the job done the team than he is!
(well ok, to be fair, if he gets in the morning break he might escape trouble.)

Second thought: who´s in reserve?
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 06, 2021, 20:24
Second thought: who´s in reserve?

Reserves (in alphabetical order):  Philippe GILBERT – Tim MERLIER – Greg VAN AVERMAET – Gianni VERMEERSCH – Tim WELLENS
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 06, 2021, 23:03
I'm still jumping through hoops trying to figure out if I'll even be able to watch this event.  :S

The illustrious NBC Sports site has zero to offer under "Upcoming Events," and on their streaming portal "Peacock" there's no such thing as a schedule of programming of any sort. So, as usual, I just won't know until perhaps the day before, or day of.

I couldn't find anything about broadcast partners from the official site, but I'm not very smart, and European web design always seems to leave me somewhat baffled.
https://www.flanders2021.com/en (https://www.flanders2021.com/en)

Then there's this oddly-translated bit from the website, under: Visit Flanders

Quote
Welcome in Flanders!

The Time Trials are ridden from Knokke-Heist on the coast, to Bruges, one of the art cities in Flanders. The Road Races will start in Antwerp, one of those other art cities and city with the second largest port of Europe. The final of the Road Races will be in and around Leuven, art city and provincial capital of Flemish Brabant.

Are they welcoming Flanders to Flanders? :slow

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 07, 2021, 05:24
https://www.flobikes.com/articles/6884720-flobikes-2021-us-live-broadcast-calendar

It's on FloBikes in the States malheureusement.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 13, 2021, 20:48
 #teamgb

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_J2JSuX0AEdEdo?format=jpg)

Feels like a changing of the guard in the elite team with all these youngsters.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_J2KEYX0AIgMOx?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 13, 2021, 21:13
So Pidcock a bit out of top shape, Hayter on a roll and a couple of old guys there for honors?




 
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 15, 2021, 20:11
 #teamde

https://www.rad-net.de/ajax.aspx/content/bb2b809b-3dcc-4a1d-9ef3-336a44a74381.html

Elite men

Street races (possible number of starters 6)
Pascal Ackermann (born 1994 / Minfeld / Bora-hansgrohe)
Nikias Arndt (1991 / Cologne / DSM)
John Degenkolb (1988 / Oberursel / Lotto-Soudal) *
Jonas Koch (1993 / Rottweil / Intermarché-Wanty- Gobert Matériaux) *
Nils Politt (1994 / Hürth / Bora-hansgrohe)
Max Schachmann (1994 / Brescia / Bora-hansgrohe) *
Georg Zimmermann (1997 / Augsburg / Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert Matériaux)

Replacement
Jonas Rutsch (1998 / Erlenbach / EF Education-Nippo)
Jannik Steimle (1996 / Weilheim / Deceuninck-Quick Step)

Individual time trial (2)
Tony Martin (1985 / Eschborn / Jumbo-Visma)
Max Walscheid (1993 / Qhubeka-NextHash)

Team Relay (3)
Nikias Arndt (1991 / Cologne / DSM)
Tony Martin (1985 / Eschborn / Jumbo-Visma)
Max Walscheid (1993 / Qhubeka-NextHash)


Elite women

Street races (7)
Lisa Brennauer (1988 / Durach / Ceratizit-WNT)
Kathrin Hammes (1989 / Cologne / Ceratizit-WNT)
Romy Kasper (1988 / Leipzig / Jumbo-Visma)
Lisa Klein (1996 / Erfurt / Canyon-Sram)
Franziska Koch (2000 / Mettmann / DSM)
Mieke Kröger (1993 / Bielefeld / Coop-Hitec Products)
Liane Lippert (1998 / Friedrichshafen / DSM)

Replacement
Hannah Ludwig (2000 / Canyon-Sram)

Individual time trial (2)
Lisa Brennauer (1988 / Durach / Ceratizit-WNT)
Lisa Klein (1996 / Erfurt / Canyon-Sram)

Team Relay (3)
Lisa Brennauer (1988 / Durach / Ceratizit-WNT)
Lisa Klein (1996 / Erfurt / Canyon-Sram)
Mieke Kröger (1993 / Bielefeld / Coop-Hitec Products)


U23 men

Road race (6)
Pirmin Benz (2000 / rad-net ROSE Team) *
Maurice Ballerstedt (2001 / Jumbo-Visma Development)
Kim Heiduk (2000 / Lotto-Kern House) *
Leon Heinschke (1999 / Development-Team DSM) *
Michel Heßmann (2001 / Jumbo-Visma Development)
Tom Lindner (2001 / P & S Metalltechnik)
Niklas Märkl (1999 / DSM)
Marius Mayrhofer (2000 / Development-Team DSM)
Tim Torn Teutenberg (2002 / Leopard) *

Individual time trial (2)
Maurice Ballerstedt (2001 / Jumbo-Visma Development)
Michel Heßmann (2001 / Jumbo-Visma Development)


Juniors

Road race (5)
Cedric Abt (2003 / RC Pfullendorf)
Matteo Groß (2004 / RV Concordia Reute) *
Emil Herzog (2004 / SG Simmerberg) *
Moritz Kärsten (2003 / RSC Linden)
Luis Joe Lührs (2003 / RC Die Schwalben Munich)
Daniel Schrag (2003 / Aichach cycling team)

Individual time trial (2)
Moritz Kärsten (2003 / RSC Linden)
Luis Joe Lührs (2003 / RC Die Schwalben Munich)


Juniors

Street races (5)
Justyna Czapla (2004 / RV Union 1886 Nürnberg) *
Lana Eberle (2003 / RSV Edelweiß Oberhausen) *
Selma Lantzsch (2003 / RSV SC Lübben)
Antonia Niedermaier (2003 / RSV Götting Bruckmühl)
Linda Riedmann (2003 / RV Concordia Karbach)
Marla Sigmund (2003 / RG Hamburg) *
Jette Simon (2004/1. FC Kaiserslautern)

Individual time trial (2)
Selma Lantzsch (2003 / RSV RC Lübben)
Antonia Niedermaier (2003 / RSV Götting-Bruckmühl)


* The final decision on the nomination will take place after a performance review next weekend.

Don't get me wrong, I really rate Schachers, but no way would I be selecting him. He's totally out of form.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 16, 2021, 03:38
https://www.flobikes.com/articles/6884720-flobikes-2021-us-live-broadcast-calendar

It's on FloBikes in the States malheureusement.
Here's my predicament: Flo Bikes will cost me $150.00, as they don't do monthly subs. But when I search their schedule of upcoming races, Paris-Roubaix is listed as "Not available in your region." So there's no way in hell I'm paying 150 bucks for the men's WC road race (which is all I really care about, if I'm honest). I already pay for other services that grant me access to Le Tour and La Vuelta (and other races as well).

Cycling is perhaps the only sport I know of that can't consolidate its entire season under one streaming umbrella. It's absurd. IIRC, I think I was able to watch last year's UCI Worlds on the "Olympic" channel, which is an offshoot of NBC sports, but I no longer have that channel in my new location. I don't think it would matter anyway, as they've reconfigured much of their sports streaming since then.

The brain trust at the UCI needs to be lobotomized and sent out to pasture.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 16, 2021, 08:13
a bit off topic, but personally I use a "Smart DNS" service to access international streams, and it works perfectly fine. You just need to add the DNS address to your router, adjust one or two settings on their website, and then you can watch all the free streams (Sporza, Rai, France 3, RTVE and so on - and also the Swiss Zattoo multi-platform, which has Eurosport 1 and l'Equipe, for example).

They offer a 14 day free trial (which would do for the Worlds), and also send out some offers after registering for it. I pay ~$60 for 24 months atm.

https://www.smartdnsproxy.com/
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 16, 2021, 10:43
Cycling is perhaps the only sport I know of that can't consolidate its entire season under one streaming umbrella.

I beg your pardon? If you came to live in Europe for a few years you still wouldn't have roundded the umbrella shop for streaming umbrellas for any sport over here. Skiing, soccer etc - they are all spread all over the place, and if you think you have put together a package of 65 services to piece everything together, there is always the olympics and the world championships  and the Tour de Suisse and the Swiss world cup races that sell everything to another provider.

Another provider then hires a new but well known name from the sport with no previous TV experience, brings along their squad of soccer journalists and "yea, now we are going to be the new platform for cycling"). There's so much poor tv that comes out of these deals.....

 
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 16, 2021, 19:18
No Norwegian team news yet?

#teamie

https://twitter.com/CyclingIreland/status/1438463645374107655

C'mon Rafferty!
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 16, 2021, 20:04
No Norwegian team news yet?

Sorry for late update, I think they were announced yesterday.

For the men's elite TT I think we get a "yeah, we're here!"  performance by Andreas Leknessund. The thing is, this excellent TT squad we coud have, they're all pretty badly banged up after crashes in the past month. It really was a race for #jumbo Tobias Foss , but he's got a broken rib. Leknessund only got a bad shoulder. Maybe #dsm has provided him with a personal TT-bike?

Third in the *no Norwegian TT force is Søren Wærenskjold, but he will race the U23. On a red Dare TT bike (#dsm should consider buying a few for when their guys want to go out and ride fast again...  :-x)

For the women, the ITT job goes to #movistar Katrine Aalerud. I haven't followed the scene to closely this fall, but maybe Vita heine is a bit disappointed for not getting a call? Aalerud is a bit out of shape, so it is another "yeah, we're here".

To remember, just this:  we have #unox Søren Wærenskjold for the U23 ITT!

(RR squad in separate post later, but there is a surprise, the captain is a guy who won de Ronde some years back. Who could have thought that! :o )


Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 16, 2021, 21:54
Ok, here comes the *no road race team for #rainbow  :D

The warm-up band, U23, featuring:
#unox Søren Wærenskjold, #unox Jonas Iversby Hvideberg, #unox Idar Andersen, #unox Martin Bugge Urianstad and those twins: #unox Tobias Halland Johannesen, #unox Andreas Halland Johannesen 
This team has a few tactical options,  but perhaps Søren Værenskjold seems to be in best shape at the moment (Hvideberg just back from broken collarbone crash). Wærenskjold imho rides a bit like a young Hushovd, strong sprinter with also good TT abilities, should like the challenges here.

The headliners: 
It is all in for emperor Aleksander the Great Kristoff and for his heiress, the princess Susanne!

*no Men's Road Race team: #uae Aleksander Kristoff , #uae Sven Erik Bystrøm, #uae Vegard Stake Laengen, #unox Markus Hoelgaard, #unox Rasmus Tiller, #intermarche Odd Christian Eiking

Note 1: it really improves your chances to make the selection if your team name starts with "U" - could there be a hidden bias in the selection?
Note 2: Eiking is an outsider also in that statistic (he was excellent on home roads in Bergen, following the early late attacks some 3-4 laps before the finish)
Note 3: no EBH for the leadout this time  :P

*no Women's Road Race team: #dsm Susanne Andersen, #movistar Katrine Aaleud, #fdj Stine Borgli, #drops Emile Moberg, #coop Anne Dorthe Ysalnd, #coop Ingvill Gåskjenn

Note 1: Susanne is as close to Aleksander v2.0 as you can get without being same sex and very closely related. Same club, same trainer, same strengths. *no to try the the same tactics, two times?

Basically, the new stuff this year is they have a bundle of riders not on the list, of both sexes, which could also have been selected and who wouldn't have made the team significantly weaker, assuming it would be the same captains anyway. Norway has more to choose from for the squad members than ever, but still not a list of podium contenders - I mean, if it was like the flat pancake country on the other side of Skagerak: they can replace the captain with a handful of other candidates and they will still have #1 or #2 favorite on their team ...  :o :-x :S

So @LukasCPH, bring us the *dk selection, please?
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 17, 2021, 07:36
some strange lineups, in general. Seems like most teams don't really know how selective it's gonna be either. Surely too hard for Cav, Ackermann oder Ewan?!
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 17, 2021, 09:45
Should we add Kristoff to that list? :P
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 17, 2021, 09:53
Should we add Kristoff to that list? :P

he may benefit from the length at least, I guess. But yeah, when guys like van Aert, MvdP (if fit) or even Colbrelli & Mohoric open the race early, he'll probably be unable to ever see them again.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 17, 2021, 10:00
https://www.cyclingcanada.ca/sport/road-2/news/19-athletes-to-represent-canada-at-road-world-championships-in-belgium/

With Woods (understandably) absent, Canada will go for the #israel Cannonball, by the way

Elite Men
Guillaume Boivin – Montreal, QC [RR]
Pier-André Côté – Levis, QC [RR]
Antoine Duchesne – Saguenay, QC [RR]
Hugo Houle – Sainte-Perpétue, QC [TT, RR]
Ben Perry – St.Catharines, ON [RR]
Nickolas Zukowsky – Ste-Lucie-des-Laurentides, QC [TT, RR]

Elite Women

Karol-Ann Canuel – Gatineau, QC [TT, RR]
Alison Jackson – Vermilion, AB [RR]
Leah Kirchmann – Winnipeg, MB [TT, RR]

(gt) Duchesne believes that Boivin could stand out. “Guillaume is our biggest piece,” pictured the Saguenay native of the winner of the national road race. It's a course that suits him well. It's not a very hard course, but there will be several raises. It's going to be a placement battle and you'll have to be focused for six hours because the race can get lost very early on. All the runners will have to make a lot of sacrifices, but we have the tools to bring our two best elements in good shape for the stretch. The team's work will be much more important than in 2019 in Innsbruck when Michael won bronze." Houle shares Duchesne's point of view about Boivin: “Guillaume is showing good form as my preparation was mainly focused on the time trial and I limited the long outings,” he explained. There will be several small bumps and many changes in direction. We will have a chance to play. "

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2021/09/16/lexperience-et-la-fougue-reunies
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 17, 2021, 17:16
So @LukasCPH, bring us the *dk selection, please?
Here we go, then ...

*dk Women Juniors:
Laura Auerbach-Lind (Give Cykelklub) (ITT + RR)
Victoria Lund (Team RYTGER powered by Cykeltøj-Online.dk) (ITT + RR)
Solbjørk Minke Anderson (Team RYTGER powered by Cykeltøj-Online.dk)
Ida Mechlenborg Krum (Give Cykelklub)

Auerbach-Lind is the Danish ITT champion, other than that I can't tell you much. IMK and SMA are first-year juniors (on paper, both participated in junior races last year already when they were U17).

*dk Men Juniors:
Carl-Frederik Bévort (Team ABC Junior) (ITT + RR)
Gustav Wang (Team ABC Junior) (ITT + RR)
Poul Holten Andersen (Team ABC Junior)
Simon Dalby (Mascot Workwear)
Henrik Pedersen (Team NPV Carl Ras Roskilde Junior)

Bévort has won the Danish TTT, ITT, and RR championships as well as half of the other races he's entered - but hasn't raced outside Denmark so far this year. The others have, but not exactly with loads of success. Best results came from Dalby who won the *no Tour te Fjells and was 10th in *be Aubel-Stavelot.

*dk Men U23:
#unox Jacob Hindsgaul
#bornholm Marcus Sander Hansen (ITT + RR)
#coloquick Sebastian Kolze Changizi
#coloquick William Blume Levy
#suri Mathias Larsen
#unox Johan Price-Pejtersen (only ITT)
#bornholm Adam Holm Jørgensen (only ITT)

Price-Pejtersen is the newly-crowned U23 ITT #champeu and one of the top favourites for the pan-flat ITT. The other two Danish ITT starters are first-year U23 Adam Holm and his Bornholm teammate Marcus Sander who will move to the #unox set-up for 2022 and go pro in 2023 at the latest (but if you look at the Halland Johannesens or Charmig, probably rip up the scene next year already).
Sander is also one of five starters for the road race, together with Mathias Larsen (at #kometa in 2020, now at the Conti team of Mads P and winner of Himmerland Rundt), Hindsgaul (a.o. 8th in l'Avenir), Levy (another rider who'll go to #unox next year, won the Randers Bike Week overall), and Kolze Changizi. They should play a decent role in the race.

*dk Women Elite:
#fdj Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig
#ceratizit Julie Leth (TTT + RR)
#mov Emma Norsgaard (ITT + TTT + RR)
#tfs Amalie Dideriksen (TTT + RR)
Marita Jensen (Team ABC Dame Elite)
Rebecca Koerner (Team ABC Dame Elite) (ITT + RR)
Trine Holmsgaard (Isorex No-Aqua Ladies)

The four pros need no introduction. Norsgaard has developed into one of the top sprinters and can get over some hills - this course should be very good for her. If the race gets too hard for her, Uttrup Ludwig is there to take over, but she doesn't have the same sprint. Dideriksen already won a #rainbow once, on a sprinters' route in Qatar, and Leth will be an excellent capitaine de route. Jensen, Koerner, and Holmsgaard finished 4th, 5th, and 8th in this year's Danish RR champs, and Koerner (who won the Randers Bike Week overall) will turn pro with #uxt next year.

*dk Men Elite:
#deceuninck Kasper Asgreen (ITT + RR)
#ef Magnus Cort (TTT + RR)
#deceuninck Mikkel Honoré
#ef Michael Valgren
#trek Mads Pedersen
#soudal Andreas Kron
#israel Mads Würtz Schmidt
#uae Mikkel Bjerg (ITT + TTT + RR)

This is the big one. Valgren has won two races in a row this week, he's in the form of his life. Asgreen won two Flemish races in the spring. Cort won two stages of the Vuelta. Mads P knows how to take the #rainbow. Honoré has made a big step up this year, as has Kron. Würtz is the national champion, and Bjerg is a massive motor.

They have only one target: To win. And it's not an exaggeration that each and every one of the eight riders could win. They don't have the one massive favourite like France (Alaphilippe), Belgium (Van Aert) or the Netherlands (Van der Poel), but they have eight riders who are just below that level. The mission must and will be: Attack, attack, attack. Have someone in every group that goes and play the cards right. Yorkshire 2019 was a deserved victory, but a surprising one.
If they win this time, it will simply be mission accomplished. :yuush

Last, but not least, the team for the Mixed Relax TTT:
#uae Mikkel Bjerg
#ef Magnus Cort
#movistar Mathias Norsgaard
#tfs Amalie Dideriksen
#ceratizit Julie Leth
#mov Emma Norsgaard

This one's a family affair, with siblings Emma and Mathias plus Emma's fiancé Mikkel Bjerg making up half of the team. :)
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 18, 2021, 20:46
Men's TT

-------------------------------------------- is the profile.

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 19, 2021, 13:46
Men's TT

-------------------------------------------- is the profile.


Great stage profile  :cool

but

OMG! i am a big fan of all the great stats and presentations that the guys over at firstcycling compile for us, but that start list is almost unreadable to me.  :angry

Bringing in the competition, i checked the startlist at procyclingstats and it has the same unreadable format.  :angry
I think we must buy the FIS´start list and time-keeping services as they are very much ahead of the cycling world when it comes to interval starts.
(The official Flanders site has run into syrup and I can´t brother to wait for it to load).


Anyway back to cycling…..
*** *ch #champeu Küng. 
** *it Ganna, *be Van Aert
* *be Evenepoel *fr Cavagna, *ch Bisegger *dk Asgreen
No Dumoulin, Roglic, Dennis  :S
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 19, 2021, 20:54
Same profile for both of tomorrow's races. Just a bit shorter than today's.

U23 Men's TT



Women's TT



Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 20, 2021, 08:59
will be interesting to see what Sheffield will do, probably back on another bike now?! The early start time could be a disadvantage, though, as the wind looks more likely to favour the later starters (turning from cross- to tailwind)
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 20, 2021, 19:26
Women's Junior TT



Men's Junior TT

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: L'arri on September 20, 2021, 19:48
Hi, y'all! Long time no chat.  :P

Just dropped in to say how much I'm looking forward to the Worlds on my home roads.

Until a couple of weeks ago I wasn't feeling it but now I'm pretty excited. I scored a VIP pass too which helps.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 21, 2021, 10:36
Until a couple of weeks ago I wasn't feeling it but now I'm pretty excited. I scored a VIP pass too which helps.
Does that mean there might be some first-hand L'arri pics on the way?   :)
 
Hope you're well!  :cool
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 21, 2021, 12:34
He'll be too busy quaffing champagne, eating his frites and mayo off a silver platter and hobnobbing with the local bigwigs in the VIP area for taking pictures.

 :P
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: L'arri on September 21, 2021, 15:42
Does that mean there might be some first-hand L'arri pics on the way?   :)
 
Hope you're well!  :cool

He'll be too busy quaffing champagne, eating his frites and mayo off a silver platter and hobnobbing with the local bigwigs in the VIP area for taking pictures.

 :P

Unfortunately - and I think it is "unfortunately" - this time it's going to be more like Leadbelly says. I think we will be out on the course in one of those big marquee things like you see at the top of the Kwaremont during the Ronde, so it will be a little race action and a lot of sitting around.

At the Tour you could stand around near the riders, watch them do their interviews and shake a few hands but this one's a bit more corporate.

Nice to see it all kicking off around the area though. Signs everywhere about the road closures, lots of local events.

I was downtown yesterday lunchtime and Rachel Neylan was in our local coffee shop. It was the shiny Factor bike parked outside that caught my eye first. That's not a brand you see around these parts. Neylan herself looked a bit tired though, as the pros often do by this time of year.

Wonder what happened with her joining Parkhotel Valkenburg mid-season but I was too polite to be that weird masked guy interrupting her peace just to ask a daft question!
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 22, 2021, 08:09
Mixed TTT

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 22, 2021, 12:17
#teamat collided with a bus during the recon today. One rider is off to hospital, so I guess they won't take part in the race

https://twitter.com/rob_televisie/status/1440627644043706377

edit: seems to have been a road race recon, not for the TTT. So shouldn't affect today's participation
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2021, 10:34
Men's Junior RR (122.03km)

(https://i.imgur.com/G0y20gg.png)

Just laps of the finishing circuit for the junior men.

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2021, 10:40
Men's U23 RR (161.36km)

(https://i.imgur.com/5S61JAd.png)

Short course for the U23s and less climbing than the juniors. :S

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 23, 2021, 20:23
Some short highlights from the last editions of these races just to get us in the mood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObUidb52PDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_mdW49ey-4
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 24, 2021, 06:25
I am having a relatively rough time at work and on top of all that there´s a health crisis involving one of my family members so I can´t really give this race the attention it deserves. However, it seems like it is going to be a very open and very tactical race where the right body needs a head on top and some luck in order to win. I can´t see that there´s a very clear favorite, it is anything-can-happen. However, it is home roads, and Belgium of course have  strong team

** *be Thibau Nys
* *be *be *be *be *be *be any other Belgian guy (Florian Vermeersch?)
* *no/#unox Søren Wærenskjold


Your time has come to shine  :D

So, please copy/paste and fill in the missing favorites from my list.  Or delete them…  :P
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 24, 2021, 12:13
Wonder what happened with her joining Parkhotel Valkenburg mid-season but I was too polite to be that weird masked guy interrupting her peace just to ask a daft question!
In a nutshell, Cronos-Casa Dorada-Burgos Alimenta-Women Cycling Sport aren't quite what they pretend to be.
This was evident in early 2020 already, with no bikes, no kit, and no wages, but the Covid lockdown came just in time for the team to sort out some sort of kit and race program for late summer & autumn.
Neylan had joined the team for 2020, and stayed on for 2021 (for a lack of other offers?), but didn't get any races after March, and eventually she left.

Reading between the lines in her transfer announcement, that Spanish team isn't exactly great:
https://twitter.com/rachneylan/status/1422609752689979395
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 24, 2021, 12:16
Men's U23 RR (161.36km)

(https://i.imgur.com/5S61JAd.png)

Short course for the U23s and less climbing than the juniors. :S
Hey, it's important to start in Antwerpen and do a completely flat and boring run-in ... and then the transfer from the Leuven circuit to the Overijse circuit, and back again! :S :fp
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2021, 19:23
Women's Junior RR (75.07km)

(https://i.imgur.com/OJgIcbC.png)

Slightly smaller field than the Junior Men's, but we'll probably still get a crash-fest on the first couple of laps.



Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2021, 19:29
Women's Elite RR (157.15km)

(https://i.imgur.com/2Kxc3nC.png)

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 24, 2021, 19:42
some strange lineups, in general. Seems like most teams don't really know how selective it's gonna be either. Surely too hard for Cav, Ackermann oder Ewan?!

You changed your mind on this after seeing what happened today in the U23?

I might have to eat some humble pie if Kristoff pulls it off and I think, if he was in form - which he isn't, Ewan would have a good chance too.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 25, 2021, 07:47
not really, no, I'd still say it's gonna be fairly selective.

For today's women's race, interestingly Wielerflits (https://www.wielerflits.be/nieuws/wk-2021-voorbeschouwing-wegwedstrijd-vrouwen/) didn't give a single :* star to van Vleuten ("not her course") or van der Breggen ("not in shape")

Het Nieuwsblad on the other hand, gave van Vleuten a lot of stars.

:*:*:*:*:* van Vleuten
:*:*:*:* Blaak, Kopecky
:*:*:* Longo Borghini, van Dijk, Vollering
:*:* Vos, Norsgaard, van der Breggen, Balsamo
:* Brand, Deignan, Brennauer, Blanka Vas, D'hoore

Let's see who is right
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: LukasCPH on September 25, 2021, 16:10
For today's women's race, interestingly Wielerflits (https://www.wielerflits.be/nieuws/wk-2021-voorbeschouwing-wegwedstrijd-vrouwen/) didn't give a single :* star to van Vleuten ("not her course") or van der Breggen ("not in shape")
Van der Breggen has said from the beginning that she would be a domestique today - and she was.
Van Vleuten did all she could, but it really wasn't her course at all.

The Dutch were more or less in control the whole race ... until the final kilometre when the Italian sprint train took over and no Dutch equivalent was to be found, leaving Vos to jump on Balsamo's wheel on her own. Longo Borghini did a long leadout, then Balsamo just kept Vos behind her for the #rainbow biggest victory of her career so far.
Niewiadoma - who had been very active in the final - took the final podium place.

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 25, 2021, 16:33
https://twitter.com/GcnRacing/status/1441721717576159232

Put that belly away! :D
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 25, 2021, 20:36
Men's Elite RR (267.49km)

(https://i.imgur.com/zvt10QS.png)

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 25, 2021, 23:52
Seeing how early in the day most of the races have taken place, I likely wouldn't have seen them anyway, even with live coverage. I'll try for the Men's Road Race, though, tomorrow.

That being said, how would any of you rate this week, thus far, overall? :slow
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2021, 08:41
TTs - Deadly dull, but what can you expect

TTT - Not bad actually

RR - They've been okay. All of the races have had at least decent action in the last two laps (~30km) which is something. I think my main issue is that a lot of the winnowing is down to crashes or being held up by crashes, especially on one corner on the Leuven circuit. Also the Flandrien circuit so far has not seen any racing really which seems a shame, maybe that will change today with the extra distance.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 09:23
Ok let me write down some exceptionally favorite favorites that no one can think of

*** *be Wout van Aert
** *nl Mathieu van der Poel, *fr Julian Alaphilippe
* *uk Tom Pidcock, *sk Peter Sagan, *dk collective

So I think top-rank cyclocross or MTB performance is a definitive plus, I reckon. From the more conventional road-racing categories I think it is Denmarks collective strength that is most likely to succeed. They have a team of 4 potential winners and they are well supported.

Kristoff is mentioned but I think he´s lacking the form he needs to win here. May be perfect for next weekend  ;) 
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2021, 09:30
Aren't you forgetting a couple of people? :P

 :onfire1 :onfire1 The Colbrelli Collective

 :onfire1 The Mohoric Massive
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 09:59
Aren't you forgetting a couple of people? :P

Nope, I am trying to stick to the 1x1-2x2-3x3 regulativene but had to cheat a little with the danes…  :D

I think the ability to accelrate about 200 times in a race strongly favors cyclocross and MTB experience. Mohoric and Colbrelli would have been on my list for a more converntional roadrace. This is more like Kermesse with some 150 km qualification for the final.

As in all the other road races, it is very open and more or less anything can happen on the final laps.  A strong rider will win and it will be a championship to remember.

(As *no Eiking said in the pre-race interviews: «This looks like it is going to be a great day for cycling, it looks almost as good as in Bergen»[1]).
 1. His interviews (in Norwegian) are weird, today they ended up with an entirely fictive discussion on what Eiking would do to win the race, where Eiking was talking about the rider Eiking in third person
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 26, 2021, 10:01
here is what the newspaper think:

*be Het Nieuwsblad
:*:*:*:*:* van Aert
:*:*:*:* Colbrelli, van der Poel
:*:*:* Alaphilippe, Cort, Mohoric
:*:* Pogacar, Matthews, Senechal, Pidcock
:* Evenepoel, Sagab, Ewan, Stuyven, Asgreen


*fr l'Équipe
:*:*:*:*:* van Aert
:*:*:*:*
:*:*:* Alaphilippe, Evenepoel, Colbrelli
:*:* van der Poel, Pidcock, Valgren, Asgreen, Cort, Trentin
:* Roglic, Hirschi, Pedersen, Sagan, Senechal
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: search on September 26, 2021, 10:04
personally I think Mohoric looks great to podium, by the way, from basically every scenario. I guess van Aert will win, but could see a surprise as well. Moscon (always super strong at this time of the year) with a late attack, or maybe Laporte in a sprint.
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 10:31
personally I think Mohoric looks great to podium, by the way, from basically every scenario. I guess van Aert will win, but could see a surprise as well. Moscon (always super strong at this time of the year) with a late attack, or maybe Laporte in a sprint.

I have to admit I was thinking about Moscon too, but I think the hills are too short and there are too many accelrations for him.

The strange guy in the lineup for *be is Evenepoel, because he´s most likely to cause damage to himself but also because there must be other Belgian cyclists that can offer a wind shadow so big it can actually help for van Aert. However, more seriously, if van Aert has a flat tire on the way in to Leuwen the last time, do you think Evenepoel will drop back to help him?   
(This looks like a setup for a new «Boasson Hagen vs Kristoff» controversy kicking off in the mixed zone after finish…)
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Leadbelly on September 26, 2021, 16:21
WT

 #rainbow Alaphilippe
 2nd Van Baarle
 3rd Valgren

ProTour

 #rainbow Van der Poel
 2nd Hoelgaard
 3rd Schoenberger

CT

Errr nobody I think

Amateur

 #rainbow Soto
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 20:55
Actually, Alaphilippe tried the same move in 2017 too, but failed to open decisive gap. If this is 3rd attempt, maybe time for *fr to hire a creative manager to come up with some new idea? Someone got to find a way to stop this…

https://twitter.com/uci_cycling/status/1442156233226534912

Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: t-72 on September 26, 2021, 21:02
This thread needs a list…
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Echoes on September 27, 2021, 11:37
Just like last year, Alaphilippe won being clearly the best man in the race. I again admit disappointment as a Lowlander - Belgian, wishing either Van Aert or Van der Poel to claim the title. This time they have little excuse as the course suited them better but I guess the season has been longer for them. Is it possible that Alaphilippe better peaked than his two main rivals? In my opinion, he didn't have such a great season, thus far. Wout and Mathieu peaked for the Olympics, not for the Worlds (despite Worlds in Belgium). Kudos to Stuyven racing really at home (he's from Leuven). Probably so eager to win that he didn't even podium.

If my memory is still with me, Alaphilippe is now the first French dual World Champion.

If you don't include the Wolber GP which was the unofficial World Championship between 1922 and 1926, then you have

Georges Speicher 1933 #rainbow
Antonin Magne 1936 #rainbow
Louison Bobet 1954 #rainbow
André Darrigade 1959 #rainbow
Jean Stablinski 1963 #rainbow
Bernard Hinault 1980 #rainbow
Luc Leblanc 1994  :-x #rainbow
Laurent Brochard 1998  :-x #rainbow
Julian Alaphilippe 2020-2021 #rainbow

It's not gonna be for this year that we have a World champion in both cyclocross and road race.

It's now been 9 years since the last Belgian title, claimed by Philippe Gilbert. Next year it will be equal to the longest period ever without any World title for Belgium. The previous one was 10 years between Marcel Kint (1938 #rainbow ) and Brik Schotte (1948 #rainbow ), this being of course due to WWII. So in normal circumstances, there's never been such a long gap between two Belgian World titles.     
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: L'arri on September 28, 2021, 16:48
I did the last few days the wrong way round. I saw the race and then I previewed the "Flandrien circuit" which is, of course, my former backyard anyway.

It took a little while to reach the area that constituted the “Flandrien circuit” of the Worlds parcours and the stiff wind was not in my favour. I tried to go easy on the small hills before I got there and took a few shortcuts following roads I almost never take whenever I’m over that way.

The first climb I reached was the Smeysberg. The barriers were still standing and, after taking a quick photo, I set off up the ramp and tried to take in all the text and images that had been laid down by fans and perhaps sponsors (some of the art looked way too classy to be the work of a roadside amateur) while I suffered on the climb. There were stylised faces of the top men and women and the names of lots of nations with lists of their selected riders.

I cleared the top of the climb and marvelled at the beautiful new asphalt which the locals would now enjoy for years to come. I passed the skeleton of the big marquee which had been my base the other day. It was hard now to pinpoint the swimlane in which our party had stood. Indeed there was no trace of fancy décor left, one could have sheltered and milked cattle under the empty structure.

Descending the Holstheide in the same direction as the race had but in the opposite direction to the one taken by the Brabantse Pijl, I quickly found myself in Terlanen and started on the Moskesstraat. I think it was the first time I’d ridden this one since the Primus Classic sportive in 2015. I was always a bit scared of the greasy cobbles back then but now I saw confirmation during my moments of pain that the entire road had been restored last year and a certain kind of mortar held them in place. It was a far cry from their erstwhile state when the rainwater used to torrent freely down the climb and expose all the stones. Nevertheless the same tactic was required now as then: keep turning the gear and keep the front wheel down. Having watched Demi Vollering with chain problems here during Saturday’s TV coverage I thought it wise to hit the worst slopes already in my lowest gear (23t) even if it meant spinning a bit at first.

I had intended to start for home after the Moskes but after surviving that I wanted to keep going for a bit and I descended instead to Overijse where I used to live and tackled the famous S-Bocht and Taymansstraat, a nice little climb that I have to admit I never knew existed until the Worlds presented it to me. Short and sweet they were and now I should be getting back for afternoon meetings.

However Taymansstraat came out on the road to Eizer and it occurred to me now that I couldn’t come all this way and not tackle the last climb in the “Flandrien circuit” when I was about to ride right past the bottom of it.

I had always thought of the Bekestraat as the worst of all the climbs in this area. The cobbles were always in a dreadful state and the deep cut of the road offered no gutters in which to put the wheels and escape some of the rattle. Sure enough though, after leaving behind the gorgeous fat rainbow stripes that someone had painted at the entrance to them, I remembered that these stones too had been recently restored. Unlike the Moskes I had already been here since the big roadworks but even with a rougher surface to improve grip and the extra mortar to hold everything together the cobbles seemed to stand out higher and it was no picnic at all.

It’s easy to feel nostalgic about this area and now I have another, more universal reason for it. This is my corner of Flanders (a really tiny one when I think about it) and I’m proud to have seen the World Championships race so magically through it. Even after the barriers have been taken away, the flags have come down and the names and faces have at last faded from the asphalt, I’ll still have the memories and that little, slightly childish satisfaction that I was here first!

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Race day:

Clip:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hardpmybe9fnz9/Worlds%20video.mp4?dl=0

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/qnje64s5czm59n4/513175ed-9aea-45c3-b716-f3157b0d14b5.jpg?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/x66vu2tmgkii09c/b5e0ef8e-7d1d-4989-88b9-0d77e0d75164.jpg?raw=1)

Didn't really take any pics on the day. Was too busy watching.

Ride today:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/v58nmvj0sxtoeuy/679279c5-9e31-4c55-b190-ac95954d3250.jpg?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/qr123w2s1sqzsic/69442193-c715-43b8-9982-2514f009b610.jpg?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/wmhuvtgvi1f1206/1d71a717-943f-46c6-a0ab-3c4d85b1560b.jpg?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1wr0mde47j7o63f/fa38c808-7f46-424b-8529-07feca1216f0.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Flanders 2021 World Road Cycling Championships
Post by: Drummer Boy on September 29, 2021, 12:58
Splendid recap, L'arri!  :cool