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Not so long ago social media were a rather marginal aspect of one's life, a mere "outlet" really, but they have since committed a sort of hostile takeover of polite society.

I suspect we have moved on from the gateway drug of overturning the dustbins of our unedited conscious to the real buzz of witnessing the increasingly spectacular consequences of doing so.

With consumer-driven media, cause demands immediate effect. There is no time for the written homework of research and reflection, only the raw dialogue of provocation and reaction.

But I recognise that I am something of a young dinosaur in all of this. Simmons, on the other hand, is an avid consumer and now he finds himself being the change he didn't quite wish to see.
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     Folks can make of this what they will. Kind of what I have been suggesting elsewhere, although I realise I am rather ignorant of what has gone on "Behind the scenes", so to speak.

    https://twitter.com/TrekSegafredo/status/1311727423097110532

    Poor joke I know, but it seems you can back pedal a Trek.
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    Meanwhile, Tour de José (I did know her real name, can't remember it) has cancelled her Twitter account, presumably because of backlash.   Probably quite a loss for someone with her sort of media job.
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    Meanwhile, Tour de José (I did know her real name, can't remember it) has cancelled her Twitter account, presumably because of backlash.   Probably quite a loss for someone with her sort of media job.
    José actually shuts down her social media accounts quite often. She can be a little touchy. During her time working for Eurosport she got a lot of hate from Dutch fans (undeserved in my opinion).
    I wouldn't say she shut down her accounts this time because of backlash, after all she didn't do anything wrong, but she is being threatened, insulted and bullied by right-wing numpties.
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    Meanwhile, Tour de José (I did know her real name, can't remember it) has cancelled her Twitter account, presumably because of backlash.   Probably quite a loss for someone with her sort of media job.
    José Been.
    I believe she may re-activate the account when things have blown over a bit - though I don't know.


    On that statement, the devil is in the detail: There's a difference between "apologising to those who found what I did offensive" and "apologising for what I did".
    Quinn Simmons did the former - but "I'm sorry if you were offended, but I didn't mean to" isn't the same as "I'm sorry I offended you, even though I didn't mean to".
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    Folks can make of this what they will.

    LOL Trek: the company of high moral standards.  :shh

    Every word of that official statement, both from the company and from Quinn, is laughable in its shallow predictability. 

    Translation:

    Quinn: They made me do this. I sort of mean it. Kind of. I'm doing my part to ease tensions between myself and my sponsor.

    Trek: We've scolded him, as you might imagine, but this kid could be the first American to win Paris-Roubaix or Flanders, so we're not quite ready to lose him to Patrick Lefevere just yet. Oh, and please keep buying our bikes.

    What I find even more comical in all this is the vapid threats from various Twitter mobsters about how they've now decided to purchase that insanely overpriced Specialized Tarmac instead of the insanely overpriced Trek Madone (or whatever-the-flip names they use for the latest incarnation).

    1) Nobody cares what brand of bike you purchase for your immensely important group ride or local crit.

    2) Unless you've fully vetted all the staff and sponsored athletes under the Specialized banner, and scrutinized their personal beliefs and political persuasions, and ascertained that they are acceptable by your standards, then your argument stands without any merit whatsoever.

    I agree that Quinn Simmons has certain responsibilities as a representative of a particular brand—something which is true of all athletes with corporate affiliation. If nothing else, he needs to be cognizant of the position he's putting his sponsors in if he's going to be antagonistic on social media.

    But when I see people calling for the end of his professional career as an athlete, over the use of a single cartoonish emoji, it tells me that people have completely lost the flipping plot, and they all need to stop taking social media too seriously.

    I hate to drag national (international?) politics into all of this, but here we are. With that being said, most of what Trump does, says, or Tweets would be nothing but background noise if not for the media's 24/7 obsession with every breath, gesture and utterance. The same goes for the hyperventilating surrounded the obscure tweet of a young athlete in a fringe sport.

    The weight is given to it only in the reaction, not the initial action. I couldn't give a flip about anything Trump does on Twitter, but I'm made aware of it at every turn, whether I like it or not. It is inescapable. Nor could I give two flips about the political leanings of any athlete or celebrity at any level. It has zero effect on me, and most of it would have zero effect on the world if not for the irrisistable need for condemnation from the masses. The unimportant becomes important; the fringe becomes mainstream. Most people on the planet have zero idea who Quinn Simmons is or what a "José Been" is even supposed to be. This is a non-story by any rational assessment.

    But in the pursuit of "justice" and "righteousness," any hint of dissension or unpopular opinion is met with a the scorched earth mentality of "cancel culture."

    Well guess what? That's why Donal Trump is President of the United States. It's not because of a handful of redneck racists who wish for a return to days-gone-by. Trust me, there's not nearly enough of them still in existence to propel someone like Trump into office. No, it's because many more people see the insanity of witch hunts.

    Why might any of this matter to me, and how did this end up as a political rant? It's because when people take their outrage over cartoons too seriously, we eventually end up with Charlie Hebdo. Feeling "offended" carries way more weight these days than it should.

    People are going to have varying perspectives, opinions, and senses of humor. Deal with it. Just because you're outraged over something, it doesn't mean you're right. If everyone agreed on everything, and viewed the entire world through the same lens, the result would be mind-numbingly bland and boring beyond words.

    If the now-grossly overused phrase, "Diversity is our strength," is to have any meaning at all, then it means accepting that fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. And, shockingly, you might even find that your own world view changes over time.

    Perspective: That's what seems to have been lost in all this, and that's what seems to be lost in the 21st century.

    This is not at all what I imagined would become of our culture before the birth of the glorious Internet.

    I will forever be grateful for the fact that I both knew, and experienced, life to the fullest, before the arrival of the digital age.

    Those were the days...



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    Completely agree with your posts, Drummer Boy. It's an non issue which Trek have made an issue by doing Simmons dirty here.

    I don't get it. The language was civil enough, and even his follow up wasn't uncivil. If we're going into the depths of emoji colour, I think it's gone way too far already. But I don't think that's the issue either, as the journalist's post was more offensive.

    Don't agree with his political stance, but creating such a hostile environment for a political opinion is only going to polarise things further. The din of the mob surrounding the kid and calling for action against him over a black coloured emoji/Trump support is ridiculously disproportionate.
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    Raim-y is making his film debut.....as a beer boy.
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    Evenepoel replying "je m´en bats les couilles" to Vayer  :cool

    https://www.twitter.com/EvenepoelRemco/status/1350437999495041030
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    https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1373201198795395075

    Fathers of Remco Evenepoel, Mathieu van der Poel, Patrick en Adrie were both racing for Collstrop in 1994 just like Jos van Aert. This tweet says Jos is Wout's father but he's actually one of his uncles and happens to be Dutch.

    [Edit : by the way the tweet definitely has the wrong order here : first Patrick Evenepoel and second is Adrie Van der Poel]

    A scoop for me is that actually van Aert is Dutch !!! His father Henk was born in Belgium and raised in Lille, just like Wout but Wout has Dutch grandparents. Hence is last name should read "van Aert" with a small "v" and not "Van Aert" with a capital "V", which is the way it writes in Belgium (I was used to writing "Wout Van Aert" :S )

    This makes me laugh on the sly. Since Mathieu started to shine in cyclocross before being a top-level roadie, Belgian media (whether it be Sporza or VTM) have constantly tried to adopt him as Belgian, since he grew up in Kapellen, Belgium and has a Campine accent while he doesn't really have Belgian blood in his veins but never did they say that Wout had Dutch family root !!! I didn't even know myself until this very day !!  :o

    Jos van Aert is now working for an animal food company after being a pig farmer for some time.

    https://www.volkskrant.nl/sport/de-nederlandse-roots-van-wielrenner-wout-van-aert-het-is-van-aert-met-een-kleine-v~bc0eacf0/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
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    Correction : The article from the Volkskrant above does say "Jos van Aert (58) is zijn oom", so "Jos van Aert is his uncle" but  right afterwards they say "Wouts vader Henk is diens neef". So "Wout's father Henk is his cousin". So Jos van Aert is not a direct uncle of Wout van Aert's but a far away one. I had read too fast.
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    Correction : The article from the Volkskrant above does say "Jos van Aert (58) is zijn oom", so "Jos van Aert is his uncle" but  right afterwards they say "Wouts vader Henk is diens neef". So "Wout's father Henk is his cousin". So Jos van Aert is not a direct uncle of Wout van Aert's but a far away one. I had read too fast.
    First cousin, once removed.
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