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« on: June 21, 2019, 09:32 »
#jumbo

https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/wout-van-aert-debuteert-in-tour-de-france-met-jumbo-visma/

Wout van Aert
George Bennett
Laurens De Plus
Dylan Groenewegen
Amund Grondahl Jansen
Steven Kruijswijk
Tony Martin
Mike Teunissen

As it says in another Wielerflits article, Jumbo in all it's iterations will never have taken as few Dutch riders to the Tour.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 09:22 »
    #lotto

    https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/lotto-soudal-met-zes-belgen-naar-de-ronde-van-frankrijk/

    Ewan
    De Buyst
    Kluge
    Keukeleire
    De Gendt
    Benoot
    Wellens
    Monfort

    Not official yet.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #2 on: June 25, 2019, 07:51 »
    #arkea

    https://www.team-arkea-samsic.fr/six-premiers-coureurs-arkea-samsic-tour-de-france/

    Warren Barguil
    André Greipel
    Elie Gesbert
    Maxime Bouet
    Anthony Delaplace
    Florian Vachon
    +2

    I'd bring in Hardy and Swift, I think. But who knows, maybe they'll just go with Feillu and Moinard again instead
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 15:42 »
    #wanty

    http://wanty-gobert.be/en/content/tour-de-france-8-representants-wanty-gobert

    Frederik Backaert
    Aimé De Gendt
    Odd Eiking
    Guillaume Martin
    Xandro Meurisse
    Yoann Offredo
    Andrea Pasqualon
    Kevin Van Melsen

    quite a strong team, and the TTT result should give Martin a bit of freedom to catch a good breakaway ;)
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #4 on: June 25, 2019, 20:19 »
    #arkea

    I think Arkea have the same amount of confidence in Greipel that most of us do.

    He needs a train to keep him out of the hurly burly in the sprint, the sort of stuff he no longer has the appetite for, but even with one this year he's shown nothing. It would be even more of a waste to give him dedicated helpers. The team probably hopes he can just stick in the race and see if he can do anything on one of the later, less frantic sprints.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #5 on: June 25, 2019, 20:41 »
    probably, yeah. I think Wagner is not yet fit again anyway though, and would someone like welten Welten be of much help in a hectic Tour sprint?!
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 12:04 »
    #astana

    http://www.astanaproteam.kz/modules.php?name=astana&page=news&id=2950

    Fuglsang
    Lutsenko
    G. Izagirre
    Bilbao
    Cort
    Sanchez
    Fraile
    Houle

    #deceuninck

    https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4002/deceuninck-quick-step-to-tour-de-france

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    Asgreen
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #9 on: June 27, 2019, 23:22 »
    :fp this is #uae: Bystrøm, Stakan (VSL) and the 5 (five) captains.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #10 on: June 28, 2019, 07:34 »
    #katusha

    https://twitter.com/katushacycling/status/1144485495662997509

    Jens Debusschere
    Alex Dowsett
    José Gonçalves
    Marco Haller
    Nils Politt
    Rick Zabel
    Mads Würtz Schmidt
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #11 on: June 28, 2019, 08:35 »
    #mitchelton



    Luke Durbridge (AUS, 28)
    Jack Haig (AUS, 25)
    Michael Hepburn (AUS, 27)
    Daryl Impey (RSA, 34)
    Chris Juul-Jensen (DEN, 29)
    Matteo Trentin (ITA, 29)
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    Simon Yates (GBR, 26)

    Simon is the surprise man there
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2019, 13:52 »
    #sunweb

    https://teamsunweb.com/tdf-line-up/

    Søren Kragh Andersen (DEN)
    Nikias Arndt (GER)
    Cees Bol (NED)
    Chad Haga (USA)
    Lennard Kämna (GER)
    Wilco Kelderman (NED)
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #13 on: June 28, 2019, 16:49 »
    :fp this is #uae: Bystrøm, Stakan (VSL) and the 5 (five) captains.
    Aru, Cousin Dan, Kristoff, Rui Costa, and ...?
    Ah, Henao. I always forget he's riding for #uae these days.
    There's also young Philipsen, apparently.
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    « Reply #15 on: June 29, 2019, 20:44 »
    Four leaders and four doms... let's see how that goes for Bora
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #17 on: June 29, 2019, 23:33 »
    would Froome count as an "Englishman"? If not, there can't have been too many over the past years... probably only Stannard?!
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #18 on: June 30, 2019, 09:13 »
    the English count Thomas though - especially after he won
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #19 on: June 30, 2019, 10:46 »
    would Froome count as an "Englishman"? If not, there can't have been too many over the past years... probably only Stannard?!

    He rode in the Time Trial for England in the 2010 Commonwealth Games (came 5th), so I guess he does.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #20 on: June 30, 2019, 18:27 »
    the English count Thomas though - especially after he won

    But they counted Froome, too (sort of), "after he won." I'm guessing that the specific criteria are somewhat "flexible."

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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #21 on: June 30, 2019, 19:49 »
    the English count Thomas though - especially after he won

    We don't consider him to be English. When he wins he is British, when he loses he is Welsh

    See also the way Andy Murrays nationality varies between Scottish and British in the views of English people.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #22 on: July 01, 2019, 14:21 »
    as opposed to Australia who claim everyone who has even remotely been associated (or visited) the country :D
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #23 on: July 01, 2019, 17:09 »
    He rode in the Time Trial for England in the 2010 Commonwealth Games (came 5th), so I guess he does.

    I know this is a stale old topic but by that measure he rode for Kenya in the worlds and all Africa champs so they have true first dibs on Chris.

    His national status would have allowed him to ride for any of the home nations at the the commies... seems he picked the best resourced...

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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #25 on: July 02, 2019, 12:25 »

     :(

    Cav dropped... is it all over now???
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    « Reply #26 on: July 02, 2019, 20:18 »
    Some might say it was all over a long time ago. Going by his tweets he doesn't agree though and seems pretty bullish about the form he was building despite the poor results. I dunno if he's now going to ride Osterreich or somewhere else instead now, but a few wins might convince him (and other teams) that another year or two is a worthwhile venture. Naturally the opposite will be true if he's finishing 13th in sprints behind conti riders or getting dropped on molehills.
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    Re: The Start List
    « Reply #27 on: July 04, 2019, 04:45 »
    I'd have more sympathy for Cavendish had he not been so insufferable at the height of his powers.

    During the heyday of the nearly-invinceable HTC train, I would marvel at the tactics and raw power they could impose on the rest of the peloton, seemingly at will. And while many Cav-haters were born during that era, I knew we were witnessing one of the greatest sprinting spectacles of all time. Tony Martin - Matt Goss - Bernie Eisel - Mark Renshaw...or Hincapie and other deeply experienced pros in the years before—who was going to beat that? As it turned out, usually no one. Cav's explosive accelerations and impressive aerodynamics were history in the making.

    He was almost always exceptionally gracious to his teammates in victory, but damn, was he a whiny, sore loser when everything didn't go his way. Being "ultra-competitve" is one thing, behaving like a spoiled little pr*ck, quite another.

    So a Tour without Cav in 2019? He won't be missed. His glory days are well behind him anyway.

    Thanks for the memories, Mark. I just hope the humility kicks in.
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