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Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
« on: July 25, 2019, 16:27 »
A short stage, but 3 climbs, and a mountaintop finish. This IS the last chance to change GC hands, presuming, of course, that Sunday is the usual promenade.



Cormet de Roselend, @ km 36, Cat 1, 19.9 km @ 6%

Cote de Longefoy, @ km 75.5, Cat 2, 6.6 km @ 6.5%

Val Thorens, km 130, 33.4 km @ 5.5%

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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 09:14 »
     Surprisingly there doesn't appear to be an official profile of the Cormet de Roselend. Could well turn out to be the pivotal ascent of the Tour.

    LFR's it is then.


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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #2 on: July 26, 2019, 19:42 »
    Surprisingly there doesn't appear to be an official profile of the Cormet de Roselend. Could well turn out to be the pivotal ascent of the Tour.

    LFR's it is then.


    I looked at that when I wrote the preview, but I was thinking it was too early. On the other hand, if Alaphillipe could SOMEHOW manage a gap over the top, he might go for a long-range bid, although that seems pretty far-fetched.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 20:06 »
    Surprisingly there doesn't appear to be an official profile of the Cormet de Roselend. Could well turn out to be the pivotal ascent of the Tour.

    LFR's it is then.




    The ASO might have had a crystal ball when preparing the official profiles as it sounds like the Cormet de Roseland might be taken out of the stage tomorrow because of landslides
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #4 on: July 26, 2019, 21:02 »
     Stage cut to 59kms. Straight flat run from Alberville to the climb to Val Thorens. Zero opportunity place riders up the road, train all the way.
    The Tour size comes back to bite them in the ass. No plan B due to the road closures needed for the caravan etc.

    I can sum up it up in 3 words: Not worth watching.


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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #5 on: July 26, 2019, 21:54 »
    Feels strange to be ending such a blockbuster Tour like this.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #6 on: July 26, 2019, 23:23 »
    Stage cut to 59kms. Straight flat run from Alberville to the climb to Val Thorens. Zero opportunity place riders up the road, train all the way.
    The Tour size comes back to bite them in the ass. No plan B due to the road closures needed for the caravan etc.

    I can sum up it up in 3 words: Not worth watching.



    Beat me to it - posting the shortened stage.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #7 on: July 27, 2019, 01:11 »
    OH !!!

    how incredibly disappointing.  That is a shocker.


    On the plus side for the French - Alaphilippe has a chance of saving his podium .... but that is an incredibly disappointing way to close out what has been the best Tour in years.

    :( :( :( :(
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 05:11 »
    The Tour size comes back to bite them in the ass.

    The "size"? How so? Can you elaborate, please?



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    Sooo... we'll see you about eight hours from now?  :P
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #9 on: July 27, 2019, 08:01 »
    I actually always wanted to see a "Tour of Japan - Mount Fuji" kind of stage in a big race to see how it unfolds - but not really as the final, decisive stage of the closest Tour de France in ages. Very disappointing, that there is no plan B available. The fight for the podium could still be interesting though, but I guess with this kind of profile, Alaphilippe may be able to hang on, I guess.

    The mountain jersey is still at stake btw, with 40 points (40-30-24-20-16-12-8-4) available at the top:

    1      #kom   ROMAIN BARDET       86 PTS
    2      #lotto   TIM WELLENS       74 PTS
    3      #bahrain   DAMIANO CARUSO       67 PTS
    4      #mitchelton   SIMON YATES       59 PTS
    5      #ineos   EGAN BERNAL       58 PTS
    6      #movistar   NAIRO QUINTANA       58 PTS

    So if Bernal (or Quintana, or Yates) wins, Bardet needs to finish 5th to keep the jersey.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #10 on: July 27, 2019, 09:30 »
     It's not a gimme that they will make it to the finish, today. The weather forecast is pretty horrible.
    If they don't and had totally cancelled yesterday...................
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #11 on: July 27, 2019, 10:33 »
    The mountain jersey is still at stake btw, with 40 points (40-30-24-20-16-12-8-4) available at the top:

    1      #kom   ROMAIN BARDET       86 PTS
    2      #lotto   TIM WELLENS       74 PTS
    3      #bahrain   DAMIANO CARUSO       67 PTS
    4      #mitchelton   SIMON YATES       59 PTS
    5      #ineos   EGAN BERNAL       58 PTS
    6      #movistar   NAIRO QUINTANA       58 PTS

    So if Bernal (or Quintana, or Yates) wins, Bardet needs to finish 5th to keep the jersey.

    thinking about it... may the bad weather play into Wellens' hands maybe?!
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #12 on: July 27, 2019, 11:47 »
    An amazing picture from the race twitter.



    There was supposed to be a decision as to whether the stage would be cancelled or not at 12 o'clock.
    The official site still has it as a go, but the weather is shocking.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #13 on: July 27, 2019, 12:18 »
    There was supposed to be a decision as to whether the stage would be cancelled or not at 12 o'clock.
    The official site still has it as a go, but the weather is shocking.

    This is a somewhat stunning development if they're actually considering cancelling this stage as well.  :o

    I had thought, going into these last couple of days, that some epically bad, yet still rideable, weather could've sealed this as one of the greatest Tours of all time. The drama, excitement and intensity of such could've combined for iconic images and mythical retellings.

    Instead, we're faced with the possibility of no racing, an anti-climatic resolution beyond what anyone had anticipated,  and years worth of "what could've beens."

    This will certainly be one of the more memorable Tours in a long, long time, but it could also end up being one of the saddest. 
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #15 on: July 27, 2019, 16:34 »
    The "size"? How so? Can you elaborate, please?
    Publicity caravan, teams, media, fans, everything.
    It's not hundreds of people and a dozen trucks with material, but many thousands of people and closer to a hundred trucks with material.

    You can't re-route an event of that size at short notice. If plan A doesn't work for whatever reason, they have little choice but to cut the stage short, but keep the finish if at all possible.

    Yesterday, even after the cancellation of the finishing climb, the whole caravan still had to go to Tignes - because that was where their hotels were.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #16 on: July 27, 2019, 16:38 »
    Bardet & Alaphilippe got lucky, to hang onto KOM & Top 5.

    Pleased for Nibali.

    Thomas such a team guy I think he’s genuinely happy for Egan.

    Thomas to Bahrain with Ellingworth???

    Last year I was focused on Quick-Steps loss of Terpstra..... but those other 2 😵😪.

    Outs: Niki Terpstra (Direct Energie), Laurens De Plus (LottoNL-Jumbo), Maximillian Schachmann (Bora-Hansgrohe)
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #17 on: July 27, 2019, 16:44 »
    Thomas to Bahrain with Ellingworth???
    He's been rumoured to leave #sky / #ineos a half-dozen times, and has always re-signed.
    I'll believe it when I see it.
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    Re: Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens
    « Reply #18 on: July 28, 2019, 13:29 »
    . . .

    Thomas such a team guy I think he’s genuinely happy for Egan.

     . . .

    I have to say, Geraint appeared quite the gentleman, both about acting a proper road captain, rather than THE CAPTAIN, and being genuinely pleased for Bernal's results. No ego dramatics. Got to appreciate that.
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