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Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2021, 08:48 »
It's gonna be unusual heading into these latter events with some riders to cheer on for once - Alaphilippe, Matthews, GVA, Vansevenant, Pidcock and maybe Jorgenson. Making up 650 points though is probably asking too much.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #31 on: April 15, 2021, 10:07 »
    Race 18  Brabantse Pijl

    For the first time since Milan-San Remo, the race winner appears in some of our teams.

    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    1      PIDCOCK Thomas      130      8
    3      TRENTIN Matteo      66      5
    7      TEUNS Dylan      40      2
    12      VAN AVERMAET Greg      18      13
    14      MADOUAS Valentin      14      1
    18      LAPORTE Christophe      8      8

    This race Main scorers Green points
    1      Bminchow      214   Pidcock/Trentin/Van Avermaet   80
    2      Leadbelly      148   Pidcock/Van Avermaet         36.66
    2      JustSomeGuy      148      "   36.66
    2      Del1962      148      "      36.66
    5      Ray10      138   Pidcock/Laporte   10
    5      Otoxiep87      138      "      10
    5      Googolplex      138       "      10
    8      Josedin      130   Pidcock         3
    9      Kazistuta      120   Trentin/Teuns/Madouas      2
    10      AmisVelo      84            0.5
    10      SemirS      84            0.5
    12      Triley36      66            
    13      Blues_in_the_Bottle      40            
    14      Madrazo      26            
    14      DJSprtsch      26            
    14      Armchair      26            
    14      Search      26            
    14      Comodoro      26            
    19      RoteLaterne      18            
    19      Scrool07      18            
    21      MellowVelo      0            
    21      ChrisDK      0            
          CollectiveWisdom      156         


    Green points
    Any manager could score, in theory, another 240 points, if they topscore in the three remaining events, which would mean that anyone down to Triley in 15th could still win.

    Green points change in rank
    1      Madrazo      352.5      0
    2      ChrisDK      330.03      0
    3      Josedin      301.53      0
    4      RoteLaterne      250.21      0
    5      DJSprtsch      233.71      0
    6      Ray10      232.6      0
    7      Blues_in_the_Bottle      206.82      0
    8      AmisVelo      206.32      0
    9      Kazistuta      202.82      0
    10      Bminchow      176.5      8


    Standings

    The leader failed to score, and the team in 3rd outscored that in second: it is bunching up at the top.

    Rank Team Points Change in rank
    1      Madrazo      2256      0
    2      AmisVelo      2170      0
    3      Josedin      2104      0
    4      RoteLaterne      1908      0
    5      MellowVelo      1884      0
    6      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1844      0
    7      Ray10      1834      1
    8      Bminchow      1809      3
    9      DJSprtsch      1782      -2
    10      Leadbelly      1737      2
    11      SemirS      1681      -1
    12      JustSomeGuy      1661      2
    13      ChrisDK      1638      -4
    14      Kazistuta      1552      2
    15      Armchair      1545      -2
    16      Search      1500      -1
    17      Otoxiep87      1455      0
    18      Del1962      1452      2
    19      Triley36      1372      -1
    20      Comodoro      1332      -2
    21      Googolplex      1205      1
    22      Scrool07      1111      -1
          CollectiveWisdom      2134   

    CN:  1602
    VR: 1784

    The leader seems to be running out of steam, and two are chasing him down relentlessly.  As we head into the final hills, it seems that these three will comprise the podium, but in what order?  Or will someone emerge, like Cosnefroy, to try to chase them down?  And if so, will it turn out not to be Cosnefroy-esque, but more like AGR 2019?  The race situation in Brabantse Pijl and our game seem to be echoes of each other.  I had overlooked Pidcock in my summary of who might hold the key in my post-Ronde roundup: neither I nor Wout Van Aert should have underestimated him.

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #32 on: April 20, 2021, 23:10 »
    Sorry it's been delayed: RL interfering

    Race 19  Amstel Gold Race

    I thought for a while we might have to share the points from 1st and 2nd...

    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    2      PIDCOCK Thomas      132      8
    4      MATTHEWS Michael      96      1
    6      ALAPHILIPPE Julian      76      4
    9      MOHORIC Matej      52      1
    12      TRENTIN Matteo      35      5
    13      VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael      30      2
    15      BENOOT Tiesj      24      1
    20      HERMANS Quinten      16      2
    26      VAN AVERMAET Greg      10      13
    27      MADOUAS Valentin      9      1
    29      WELLENS Tim      7      6
    and 15 5-pointers.

    This race Main scorers Green points
    1      Leadbelly      319   Pidcock/Matthews/Alaphilippe   80
    2      Otoxiep87      237   Pidcock/Alaphilippe/Benoot   50
    3      Googolplex      213   Pidcock/Alaphilippe      35
    4      Bminchow      189   Pidcock/Trentin/Van Avermaet   25
    5      JustSomeGuy      170   Pidcock/Hermans/Van Avermaet   15
    6      Del1962      157   Pidcock/Trentin/Van Avermaet   10
    7      Josedin      142            5
    8      Ray10      132            3
    9      Triley36      87            2
    10      Armchair      86            1
    11      SemirS      57            
    12      Kazistuta      54            
    13      AmisVelo      50            
    13      Blues_in_the_Bottle      50            
    15      ChrisDK      45            
    16      MellowVelo      33            
    17      Search      27            
    18      Scrool07      22            
    19      Comodoro      20            
    20      Madrazo      15            
    20      RoteLaterne      15            
    20      DJSprtsch      15            
          CollectiveWisdom      151         


    Green standings
    Green points change in rank
    1      Madrazo      352.5      0
    2      ChrisDK      330.03      0
    3      Josedin      306.53      0
    4      RoteLaterne      250.21      0
    5      Ray10      235.6      1
    6      DJSprtsch      233.71      -1
    7      Blues_in_the_Bottle      206.82      0
    8      AmisVelo      206.32      0
    9      Kazistuta      202.82      0
    10      Bminchow      201.5      0
    11      Leadbelly      186.48      7
    12      SemirS      170      -1
    13      Del1962      159.87      -1
    14      JustSomeGuy      158.66      -1
    15      MellowVelo      136.82      -1
    16      Otoxiep87      126.5      4
    16      Triley36      126.5      -1
    18      Armchair      109      -1
    19      Search      108.5      -3
    20      Comodoro      102.21      -1
    21      Googolplex      55.5      0
    22      Scrool07      13.21      0

    Standings
    And the top three become even more closely bunched, with a change to their order, while Leadbelly makes that late charge towards the podium that I wondered about in the last update.
    Rank Team Points Change in rank
    1      Madrazo      2271      0
    2      Josedin      2246      1
    3      AmisVelo      2220      -1
    4      Leadbelly      2056      6
    5      Bminchow      1998      3
    6      Ray10      1966      1
    7      RoteLaterne      1923      -3
    8      MellowVelo      1917      -3
    9      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1894      -3
    10      JustSomeGuy      1831      2
    11      DJSprtsch      1797      -2
    12      SemirS      1738      -1
    13      Otoxiep87      1692      4
    14      ChrisDK      1683      -1
    15      Armchair      1631      0
    16      Del1962      1609      2
    17      Kazistuta      1606      -3
    18      Search      1527      -2
    19      Triley36      1459      0
    20      Googolplex      1418      1
    21      Comodoro      1352      -1
    22      Scrool07      1133      0
          CollectiveWisdom      2285   


    Two races left, it will all be done this weekend, but still much to be finalised.  The Mur de Huy will set things up tomorrow...
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #33 on: April 21, 2021, 17:22 »
    It's gonna be unusual heading into these latter events with some riders to cheer on for once - Alaphilippe, Matthews, GVA, Vansevenant, Pidcock and maybe Jorgenson. Making up 650 points though is probably asking too much.
    I have the numbers from today in my spreadsheet, but won't be able to turn them into an update post until this evening.  But it seems 650 points is not too much to make up at all...
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #34 on: April 21, 2021, 23:23 »
    Race 20: Flèche Wallonne

    The four managers that selected Alaphilippe will have felt that he has not really delivered on the amount spent on him.  Until today.


    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    1      ALAPHILIPPE Julian      220      4
    4      WOODS Michael      96      3
    6      PIDCOCK Thomas      76      8
    14      HERMANS Quinten      27      2
    21      MATTHEWS Michael      15      1
    22      POELS Wout      14      1
    24      BRENNER Marco      12      1
    27      VANSEVENANT Mauri      9      7
    and 12 of the five pointers were also picked.

    This race Main scorers Green points
    1      Googolplex      392   Alaphilippe/Woods/Pidcock         80
    2      Leadbelly      330   Alaphilippe/Pidcock/Matthews/Vansevenant      50
    3      Otoxiep87      296   Alaphilippe/Pidcock/Matthews/Vansevenant      35
    4      Armchair      220   Alaphilippe   25
    5      Comodoro      115   Woods/Poels   15
    6      JustSomeGuy      108   Pidcock/Hermans   10
    7      Search      106   Woods   5
    8      Bminchow      93            3
    9      Josedin      90            2
    10      Ray10      81            0.5
    10      Del1962      81            0.5
    12      MellowVelo      46            
    13      ChrisDK      24            
    14      Blues_in_the_Bottle      19            
    14      Kazistuta      19            
    16      Triley36      15            
    17      AmisVelo      14            
    18      SemirS      10            
    19      Madrazo      5            
    19      RoteLaterne      5            
    19      DJSprtsch      5            
    19      Scrool07      5            
          CollectiveWisdom      92         

    Green points
    Only the top three could win now...
    Green points change in rank
    1      Madrazo      352.5      0
    2      ChrisDK      330.03      0
    3      Josedin      308.53      0
    4      RoteLaterne      250.21      0
    5      Leadbelly      236.48      6
    6      Ray10      236.1      -1
    7      DJSprtsch      233.71      -1
    8      Blues_in_the_Bottle      206.82      -1
    9      AmisVelo      206.32      -1
    10      Bminchow      204.5      0


    Standings
    Not only chasing down the three who had been out front, but going straight past them without even sitting in their wheels:
    1 Leadbelly 2386 3
    2      Josedin      2336      0
    3      Madrazo      2276      -2
    4      AmisVelo      2234      -1
    5      Bminchow      2091      0
    6      Ray10      2047      0
    7      Otoxiep87      1988      6
    8      MellowVelo      1963      0
    9      JustSomeGuy      1939      1
    10      RoteLaterne      1928      -3
    11      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1913      -2
    12      Armchair      1851      3
    13      Googolplex      1810      7
    14      DJSprtsch      1802      -3
    15      SemirS      1748      -3
    16      ChrisDK      1707      -2
    17      Del1962      1690      -1
    18      Search      1633      0
    19      Kazistuta      1625      -2
    20      Triley36      1474      -1
    21      Comodoro      1467      0
    22      Scrool07      1138      0
          CollectiveWisdom      2377   

    Liege-Bastogne-Liege on Sunday is the 21st and final race of the series, and that neatly parallels the 21 stages of a GT for our game.  From the startlists, I don't think it is more likely to change the leadership than the final stage of most GTs, but this is cycling, and one can never be sure.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #35 on: April 26, 2021, 00:06 »
    Race 21 and final: Liege-Bastogne-Liege

    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    2      ALAPHILIPPE Julian      170      4
    5      WOODS Michael      112      3
    7      BENOOT Tiesj      90      1
    10      MOHORIC Matej      62      1
    19      MATTHEWS Michael      26      1
    24      WELLENS Tim      16      6
    25      NEILANDS Krists      14      1

    and 13 five pointers.

    This race Main scorers Green points
    1      Googolplex      282   Alaphilippe and Woods         80
    2      Otoxiep87      260   Alaphilippe and Benoot   50
    3      Leadbelly      216   Alaphilippe and Matthews   35
    4      Armchair      175   Alaphilippe    25
    5      Search      133   Woods and Wellens   15
    6      Comodoro      127   Woods   10
    7      Triley36      72   Mohoric   5
    8      MellowVelo      31            3
    9      ChrisDK      29            2
    10      JustSomeGuy      26            0.33
    10      SemirS      26            0.33
    10      Scrool07      26            0.33
    13      Bminchow      21            
    14      AmisVelo      15            
    14      Blues_in_the_Bottle      15            
    14      Del1962      15            
    14      Kazistuta      15            
    18      Madrazo      10            
    18      RoteLaterne      10            
    18      DJSprtsch      10            
    21      Josedin      5            
    21      Ray10      5            
          CollectiveWisdom      20         


    Final Green Points standings

    Maybe some consolation for Madrazo, who lead the main scoring until the end of the cobbles, but virtually disappeared from scoring in the Ardennes(ish) 4 race coda to the spring.
    Green points change in rank
    1      Madrazo      352.5      0
    2      ChrisDK      332.03      0
    3      Josedin      308.53      0
    4      Leadbelly      271.48      1
    5      RoteLaterne      250.21      -1
    6      Ray10      236.1      0
    7      DJSprtsch      233.71      0
    8      Googolplex      215.5      9
    9      Otoxiep87      211.5      5
    10      Blues_in_the_Bottle      206.82      -2
    11      AmisVelo      206.32      -2
    12      Bminchow      204.5      -2
    13      Kazistuta      202.82      -2
    14      SemirS      170.33      -2
    15      JustSomeGuy      168.99      -2
    16      Del1962      160.37      -1
    17      Armchair      159      1
    18      MellowVelo      139.82      -2
    19      Triley36      131.5      0
    20      Search      128.5      1
    21      Comodoro      127.21      -1
    22      Scrool07      13.54      0


    The final standings

    This game is all about getting a balance between the variety of races that make up the series: after Scheldeprijs, Madrazo was top and Googolplex was last.   In the 4 races since then, Madrazo scored 56 points and Googolplex 1025.  Leadbelly scored a dozen points fewer, but had been mid-table before that final few hillier races.  All four Alaphilippe teams, including the aforementioned lanterne rouge team, make the final top ten.  And Leadbelly's margin over Josedin means that there's no argument about the notorious Huy photo changing the result.

    Rank Team Points Change in rank
    1      Leadbelly      2602      0
    2      Josedin      2341      0
    3      Madrazo      2286      0
    4      AmisVelo      2249      0
    5      Otoxiep87      2248      2
    6      Bminchow      2112      -1
    7      Googolplex      2092      6
    8      Ray10      2052      -2
    9      Armchair      2026      3
    10      MellowVelo      1994      -2
    11      JustSomeGuy      1965      -2
    12      RoteLaterne      1938      -2
    13      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1928      -2
    14      DJSprtsch      1812      0
    15      SemirS      1774      0
    16      Search      1766      2
    17      ChrisDK      1736      -1
    18      Del1962      1705      -1
    19      Kazistuta      1640      0
    20      Comodoro      1594      1
    21      Triley36      1546      -1
    22      Scrool07      1164      0
          CollectiveWisdom      2397   

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #36 on: April 26, 2021, 08:48 »
    Fell out of the top 10 :(

    Congratulations Leadbelly,  nice one. The title stays on VR for another year

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #37 on: April 26, 2021, 08:50 »
    :fanfare

    Thank you sports fans, and thanks Armchair for running the game as always. :cool
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #38 on: April 26, 2021, 08:53 »
    Is that it? You call that a victory speech?
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #40 on: April 28, 2021, 00:08 »
    The riders

    572 different riders scored points in these races: unfortunately, that only includes 80 of the 91 riders that we picked.  These are the highest scoring of them:
    Points Cost Teams
    VAN AERT Wout      881      1702      0
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      625      1247      4
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      597      1264      6
    PIDCOCK Thomas      534      57      8
    ASGREEN Kasper      521      543      0
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      492      689      0
    STUYVEN Jasper      478      502      3
    VAN AVERMAET Greg      436      503      13
    TRENTIN Matteo      397      370      5
    MOLLEMA Bauke      387      310      0
    VAN BAARLE Dylan      376      344      0
    TURGIS Anthony      373      306      4
    SENECHAL Florian      372      721      1
    GAUDU David      352      484      0
    MATTHEWS Michael      345      639      1
    POGACAR Tadej      334      2044      0
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      292      737      0
    BENNETT Sam      268      901      0
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      266      956      0
    COLBRELLI Sonny      260      347      1
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      253      645      0
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      253      298      0
    MERLIER Tim      227      483      1
    VERMEERSCH Gianni      226      348      0
    LAPORTE Christophe      219      136      8
    VANMARCKE Sep      216      70      19
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      215      15      7
    PEDERSEN Mads      213      736      4
    WOODS Michael      213      666      3
    BENOOT Tiesj      202      582      1
    BALLERINI Davide      200      353      2


    Being a good pick is not just about scoring high, but can be about good return on investments.  These guys scored at least 20 points, and at least 150% of cost.
    Points Cost %age Teams
    HERMANS Quinten      48      0   infinite   2
    GRIGNARD Sébastien      25      0   infinite   0
    NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias      20      0   infinite   1
    COLMAN Alex      20      0   infinite   0
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      215      15      1433.3      7
    PIDCOCK Thomas      534      57      936.8      8
    GESBERT Elie      52      6      866.7      0
    PERRY Benjamin      25      4      625.0      0
    DE PLUS Laurens      24      5      480.0      1
    CAVENDISH Mark      71      15      473.3      0
    VAN POPPEL Boy      47      10      470.0      0
    KREDER Wesley      22      5      440.0      0
    SIEBERG Marcel      20      5      400.0      0
    APERS Ruben      20      5      400.0      0
    RUSSO Clément      99      25      396.0      0
    VANMARCKE Sep      216      70      308.6      19
    ROBEET Ludovic      140      50      280.0      0
    ZAKHAROV Artyom      25      9      277.8      0
    RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos      40      15      266.7      0
    GAUDIN Damien      98      38      257.9      0
    BURGHARDT Marcus      70      33      212.1      0
    HOLLMANN Juri      30      15      200.0      0
    BASSO Leonardo      20      10      200.0      0
    VAN DER SANDE Tosh      136      71      191.5      0
    SCHELLING Ide      150      79      189.9      0
    VAN ASBROECK Tom      170      90      188.9      0
    HAUSSLER Heinrich      133      79      168.4      0
    LAPORTE Christophe      219      136      161.0      8
    POLITT Nils      143      89      160.7      19
    RESELL Erik Nordsaeter      34      22      154.5      0


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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #41 on: April 28, 2021, 14:03 »
    This happens when you make a team in a hurry for 5mins :D a reminder to check the start dates better next time and avoiding the last place  :lol
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #42 on: April 29, 2021, 22:51 »
    I started the analysis on Monday night, got distracted from it and posted an incomplete version at around midnight, and haven't had any time since.  But here is a bit more:

    The impeccable picks
    If your budget remaining for one last rider was in this range, this was the best you could do:
    Points won range teams
    VAN AERT Wout      881      1702 +      0
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      625      1247-1701      4
    PIDCOCK Thomas      534      57-1246      8
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      215      15-56      7
    GESBERT Elie      52      6-14      0
    HERMANS Quinten      48      0-5      2


    Collective Ignorance
    It might seem to speak well of our selection ability that the Collective Wisdom team came 2nd with a very strong score despite a considerable underspend, but I was able to construct a team of those that nobody chose that would have won by a vast margin (score of 2898) that cost exactly the budget limit.
    Price Points
    ASGREEN Kasper      543      521
    MOLLEMA Bauke      310      387
    VAN BAARLE Dylan      344      376
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      298      253
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      645      253
    VERMEERSCH Gianni      348      226
    STEWART Jake      122      182
    SCHELLING Ide      79      150
    CHAMPOUSSIN Clément      111      141
    ROBEET Ludovic      50      140
    VAN DER SANDE Tosh      71      136
    HAUSSLER Heinrich      79      133

    Best possible team
    I am always happy to be proven wrong, but the best scoring permutation I could come up with that was allowed (and had 5 budget points of loose change) is this lot, amassing 3700 points
    Price Points Teams
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      1247      625      4
    PIDCOCK Thomas      57      534      8
    TRENTIN Matteo      370      397      5
    MOLLEMA Bauke      310      387      0
    VAN BAARLE Dylan      344      376      0
    TURGIS Anthony      306      373      4
    LAPORTE Christophe      136      219      8
    VANMARCKE Sep      70      216      19
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      15      215      7
    VAN ASBROECK Tom      90      170      0
    ROBEET Ludovic      50      140      0
    HERMANS Quinten      0      48      2


    Hall of shame
    If you did not do as well as you hoped, it is probably down to one or more of this bunch: theye were all selected, without being particularly cheap (>100 cost) and seriously under performed (<25% return)
    Points Price %age teams
    BATTISTELLA Samuele      0      104      0.0      1
    CALMEJANE Lilian      0      125      0.0      1
    JUNGELS Bob      0      136      0.0      8
    TEUNISSEN Mike      0      172      0.0      1
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose      5      129      3.9      1
    DEVENYNS Dries      17      338      5.0      1
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      10      178      5.6      1
    DRUCKER Jempy      15      252      6.0      2
    POELS Wout      24      382      6.3      1
    BETTIOL Alberto      26      390      6.7      2
    BARDET Romain      26      358      7.3      1
    DEGENKOLB John      36      383      9.4      2
    BISSEGGER Stefan      20      145      13.8      1
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      98      649      15.1      1
    COQUARD Bryan      50      331      15.1      1
    VIVIANI Elia      45      261      17.2      1
    MADOUAS Valentin      71      387      18.3      1
    DE BUYST Jasper      24      129      18.6      1
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald      25      131      19.1      1
    WELLENS Tim      83      431      19.3      6
    TEUNS Dylan      75      385      19.5      2
    VERMEERSCH Florian      41      208      19.7      1
    SAGAN Peter      159      767      20.7      4
    DEWULF Stan      30      132      22.7      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      93      397      23.4      2
    VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael      50      200      25.0      2



    So how did they do so well?
    Top four scorers for the top 5 teams:
    Leadbelly: Alaphilippe, Pidcock, Van Avermaet, Matthews
    Josedin: Pidcock, Turgis, Senechal, Vanmarcke
    Madrazo: Stuyven, Van Avermaet, Laporte, Vanmarcke
    Amis Velo: Van der Poel, Van Avermaet, Trentin, Vanmarcke
    Otoxiep87:Alaphilippe, Pidcock, Laporte, Vanmarcke


    Not all races are equal
    Well, they are in the Green Jersey classification, but they vary vastly in how many points they contributed to the main game, partly because of CQ point allocations, and partly because of the popularity of riders who did well.
    Ronde 7370
    Omloop         4612
    MSR         4448
    E3         4370
    KBK         3277
    Dwars         2741
    Strade         2546
    Amstel         2135
    Fleche         2079
    Gent-Wev         1991
    Brabantse         1762
    LBL         1524
    Koksijde         1060
    GP Industria         910
    Laigueglia         502
    De Panne         370
    Scheldeprijs         341
    Nokere         273
    GP Indurain         226
    Ardeche         28
    Drome         5

    Let's hope that Paris-Roubaix is back in the mix for this game next year (and, I suppose, Frankfurt and Denain too)

    Let us know if you find any other interesting data in the spreadsheet.


    Thanks to all those who entered, and to CQrankings.com, and congratulations to Leadbelly, the podium teams, and to Madrazo on the green jersey win, and a special mention to ChrisDK for getting 2nd on the green classification with a team that was, by a very long way, lowest on the popularity ranking. 

    and look out for the Giro CQ game, coming very soon, possibly before I go to bed tonight if I remain interruption free.


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