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2021 Tour de France CQ game
« on: June 18, 2021, 00:23 »
Must be time to start this one up.


For those who already know the games:  4000 points, 8 riders, prices as of 20th June, selection tool, submit by 12:30 pm French time on 26 June.


If that does not tell you all you need to know, here is the fuller explanation.  This is the latest in a series of games for which the points scheme at cqranking.com provides both the cost of the riders and the reward scale for their performance. 

You have to select 8 riders whose total cost is 4000 points (or less), the cost of each rider being his CQ score for the year to 20th June (these were released in a CQ download on 21st); the points he can score are those given for stage top tens, GC position, KoM and Sprints Classifications and Yellow jersey wearer.  The prices, start-list (as it gradually moves towards confirmation), and the scoring tables are in a spreadsheet here.

That spreadsheet (or the team lists that will usually appear in this thread a few days before the race starts) will also give the version of names that I would ask you to use when you send in your team: it makes my task of entering the teams into the game's spreadsheet easier if you would follow that name format (Surname[space]Forename; but care with Danish, Portuguese, Spanish and some other names is needed). 

I will provide a daily breakdown of scores and standings, based on projected positions as the race progresses, and there will be a secondary classification (the green jersey game), based on stage points only.

Send your team to me by PM on VeloRooms or Cycling News forum before the race starts at 12:30 (French time) on Saturday 26th.  If  you choose anyone who does not start, or your team is overbudget, I will replace the non-starter (or cheapest single rider who can be removed to bring you under budget) with the next cheapest rider (and first alphabetically if there is more than one of the same price).  If you don't leave it until the last moment, I will be able to alert you if there are any problems with your selection.

Edit on 21st June: Prices are now confirmed, as are many of the team line-ups, so it is time to start thinking about your team.

(Tuesday update) A new player, Alien Performance at CN Forum , was the first to send in a team, and so gets to be moral guardian of my team.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 20:27 »
    In case you haven't noticed the tweak to the OP, the CQ prices were made available for download this evening, and have now been incorporated into the selection spreadsheet, and many of the teams have named their line-up.  I await a veritable flood of game entries.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #2 on: June 22, 2021, 09:02 »
    here's also the usual start list with cq values:

    #uae      UAE TEAM EMIRATES      :cool      #ag2r      AG2R CITROEN TEAM      :cool   
          POGACAR Tadej      2701            COSNEFROY Benoît      281   
          BJERG Mikkel      137            GODON Dorian      308   
          COSTA Rui Alberto Faria      466            NAESEN Oliver      404   
          FORMOLO Davide      190            O'CONNOR Ben      424   
          HIRSCHI Marc      600            PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien      485   
          LAENGEN Vegard Stake      103            PETERS Nans      174   
          MAJKA Rafal      253            SCHÄR Michael      81   
          MCNULTY Brandon      185            VAN AVERMAET Greg      846   
                4635                  3003   
    #alpecin      ALPECIN-FENIX      :cool      #astana      ASTANA – PREMIER TECH      :cool   
          DILLIER Silvan      137            ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      620   
          MERLIER Tim      925            DE BOD Stefan      123   
          MEURISSE Xandro      82            FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      266   
          PHILIPSEN Jasper      868            FUGLSANG Jakob      1076   
          RICKAERT Jonas      118            GRUZDEV Dmitriy      55   
          SBARAGLI Kristian      151            HOULE Hugo      128   
          VAKOC Petr      187            IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      735   
          VAN DER POEL Mathieu      1404            LUTSENKO Alexey      479   
                3872                  3482   
    #bbhotels      B&B HOTELS P/B KTM      :cool      #bahrain      BAHRAIN VICTORIOUS      :cool   
          BARTHE Cyril      107            BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      679   
          BONNAMOUR Franck      86            COLBRELLI Sonny      844   
          CHEVALIER Maxime      69            HAIG Jack      354   
          COQUARD Bryan      391            HALLER Marco      150   
          GAUTIER Cyril      59            MOHORIC Matej      467   
          LEMOINE Cyril      81            POELS Wout      423   
          PACHER Quentin      139            TEUNS Dylan      151   
          ROLLAND Pierre      249            WRIGHT Fred      75   
                1181                  3143   
    #bora      BORA - HANSGROHE      :cool      #cofidis      COFIDIS      :cool   
          BUCHMANN Emanuel      169            FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben      129   
          KELDERMAN Wilco      473            GESCHKE Simon      218   
          KONRAD Patrick      465            HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus      594   
          OSS Daniel      82            LAPORTE Christophe      568   
          POLITT Nils      322            MARTIN Guillaume      900   
          PÖSTLBERGER Lukas      125            PEREZ Anthony      147   
          SAGAN Peter      866            PERICHON Pierre-Luc      103   
          SCHELLING Ide      365            WALLAYS Jelle      65   
                2867                  2724   
    #deceuninck      DECEUNINCK - QUICK-STEP      :cool      #ef      EF EDUCATION - NIPPO      :cool   
          ALAPHILIPPE Julian      1462            BISSEGGER Stefan      390   
          ASGREEN Kasper      858            CORT NIELSEN Magnus      263   
          BALLERINI Davide      522            GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      130   
          CATTANEO Mattia      436            HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      159   
          CAVENDISH Mark      358            POWLESS Neilson      221   
          DECLERCQ Tim      52            RUTSCH Jonas      62   
          DEVENYNS Dries      102            URAN URAN Rigoberto      477   
          MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      189            VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael      263   
                3979                  1965   
    #groupama      GROUPAMA - FDJ      :cool      #ineos      INEOS GRENADIERS      :cool   
          ARMIRAIL Bruno      158            CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      1596   
          DEMARE Arnaud      1174            CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan      88   
          GAUDU David      1004            GEOGHEGAN HART Tao      143   
          GUARNIERI Jacopo      28            KWIATKOWSKI Michal      619   
          KONOVALOVAS Ignatas      45            PORTE Richie      1202   
          KÜNG Stefan      792            ROWE Luke      55   
          MADOUAS Valentin      316            THOMAS Geraint      848   
          SCOTSON Miles      100            VAN BAARLE Dylan      495   
                3617                  5046   
    #iwg      INTERMARCHÉ - WANTY - GOBERT      :cool      #israel      ISRAEL START-UP NATION      :cool   
          BAKELANTS Jan      176            BOIVIN Guillaume      35   
          KOCH Jonas      151            FROOME Chris      35   
          MEINTJES Louis      121            GOLDSTEIN Omer      55   
          ROTA Lorenzo      179            GREIPEL André      195   
          VAN POPPEL Boy      153            HOLLENSTEIN Reto      55   
          VAN POPPEL Danny      532            MARTIN Daniel      809   
          VLIEGEN Loïc      195            WOODS Michael      1048   
          ZIMMERMANN Georg      187            ZABEL Rick      43   
                1694                  2275   
    #jumbo      JUMBO - VISMA      :cool      #lotto      LOTTO SOUDAL      :cool   
          GESINK Robert      98            DE BUYST Jasper      212   
          KRUIJSWIJK Steven      137            DE GENDT Thomas      111   
          KUSS Sepp      407            EWAN Caleb      829   
          MARTIN Tony      80            GILBERT Philippe      213   
          ROGLIC Primoz      3387            KLUGE Roger      51   
          TEUNISSEN Mike      133            SWEENY Harrison      42   
          VAN AERT Wout      2256            VAN DER SANDE Tosh      182   
          VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      562            VAN MOER Brent      159   
                7060                  1799   
    #movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #arkea      TEAM ARKÉA - SAMSIC      :cool   
          ARCAS PEÑA Jorge      52            BARGUIL Warren      480   
          ERVITI OLLO Imanol      86            BOUHANNI Nacer      458   
          GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      206            DELAPLACE Anthony      178   
          LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      824            GESBERT Elie      288   
          MAS NICOLAU Enric      906            MCLAY Daniel      339   
          SOLER GIMENEZ Marc      564            QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      615   
          VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1326            RUSSO Clément      144   
          VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos      207            SWIFT Connor      306   
                4171                  2808   
    #bikeexchange      TEAM BIKEEXCHANGE      :cool      #dsm      TEAM DSM      :cool   
          CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      783            ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      536   
          DURBRIDGE Luke      183            BENOOT Tiesj      422   
          HAMILTON Lucas      361            BOL Cees      232   
          JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      66            DONOVAN Mark      78   
          JUUL JENSEN Christopher      81            EEKHOFF Nils      174   
          MATTHEWS Michael      798            NIEUWENHUIS Joris      122   
          MEZGEC Luka      427            PEDERSEN Casper Phillip      227   
          YATES Simon      991            SÜTTERLIN Jasha      153   
                3690                  1944   
    #qhubeka      TEAM QHUBEKA ASSOS      :cool      #total      TOTAL DIRECT ENERGIE      :cool   
          BARBERO CUESTA Carlos      102            BOASSON HAGEN Edvald      110   
          BENNETT Sean      42            CABOT Jérémy      117   
          CAMPENAERTS Victor      243            DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor      146   
          CLARKE Simon      180            DOUBEY Fabien      46   
          DLAMINI Nicholas      30            LATOUR Pierre      279   
          GOGL Michael      162            RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian      310   
          HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis      188            SIMON Julien      155   
          WALSCHEID Maximilian      254            TURGIS Anthony      421   
                1201                  1584   
    #trek      TREK - SEGAFREDO      :cool                     
          BERNARD Julien      84                     
          ELISSONDE Kenny      126                     
          MOLLEMA Bauke      819                     
          NIBALI Vincenzo      482                     
          PEDERSEN Mads      699                     
          SKUJINS Toms      312                     
          STUYVEN Jasper      718                     
          THEUNS Edward      274                     
                3514                     
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #3 on: June 22, 2021, 14:27 »
    Could be some interesting  combinations: the two main favourites are so expensive that it'll be difficult to back them up with riders expected to score much at all; there are no dead cheap picks to fill up the team (we often have several 5-10 pointers in the line up, but the cheapest here is 28), and the very cheap prices of the Giro game have largely disappeared, as the covid effect on scores is much reduced.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #4 on: June 22, 2021, 17:39 »
    Could be some interesting  combinations: the two main favourites are so expensive that it'll be difficult to back them up with riders expected to score much at all; there are no dead cheap picks to fill up the team (we often have several 5-10 pointers in the line up, but the cheapest here is 28), and the very cheap prices of the Giro game have largely disappeared, as the covid effect on scores is much reduced.

    What do you mean? Chris Froome is only 35 points. :lol

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 16:07 »
    I'm not sure it's a good thing I was way faster in putting my team together than for the Giro.

    But I was quite surprised by the prices of some riders (most too expensive, some quite cheap and I'm not talking Froomey here).

    Have fun playing you all.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 09:03 »
    A day plus two and a half-ish hours to go, a slightly disappointing 16 teams so far.
    44 different riders have been named, 20 of them being unique picks while 3 are on at least half of the teams.

    Most managers have only about 20 points of spare change after their selection, one managed to spend exactly the 4000 point limit, while two teams have >50 points that they have left unspent.

    Four riders costing more than 1000 points have been selected, but (more unusually), only two who cost less than 100.

    Popularity rankings so far range from 32% to 90% of the current maximum possible.

    Don't forget to get your team in.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2021, 12:34 »
    And we are off.

    First of all, an apology: I seem to have missed a squad replacement for ISN, and I have had Neilands listed rather than Omar Goldstein in the selection tool and in the lists on the forums.  If anyone feels that they were severely mislead by that, and wants to submit their Goldstein-focussed team (or alteration to your team) before the end of today;'s stage, I will admit it.  Otherwise, 39 teams in and the game is underway.

    As usual, teams alphabetically, riders by price, unique picks with an asterisk

    Alien Performance
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       HAIG Jack   
       MCNULTY Brandon   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Amis Velo
       POGACAR Tadej   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       MCNULTY Brandon   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   

    Archie Boy
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAIG Jack   
       BOL Cees   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       PACHER Quentin   *

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       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   

    Berflamand
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Bicycle Boy
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       FROOME Chris   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   

    BikeRacer33
       PORTE Richie   *
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   *
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Blue Roads
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   *
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       GOGL Michael   
       MEINTJES Louis   
       BERNARD Julien   *
       SCHÄR Michael   *

    Blues in the Bottle
       POGACAR Tadej   
       SAGAN Peter   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       BOIVIN Guillaume   *
       FROOME Chris   
       DLAMINI Nicholas   *
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   

    Bminchow
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   

    Bonimenier
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       HAIG Jack   
       MCNULTY Brandon   

    Comodoro
       GAUDU David   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Del1962
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   *
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    DJSprtsch
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       SAGAN Peter   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KONRAD Patrick   *
       POELS Wout   *
       MCNULTY Brandon   
       WRIGHT Fred   *
       ZABEL Rick   *

    Earns1985
       SAGAN Peter   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LAPORTE Christophe   *
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       HAIG Jack   
       COSNEFROY Benoît   *
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   

    Fivezzz
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   

    Googolplex
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BOL Cees   
       GREIPEL André   

    Jon Ezeitza
       SAGAN Peter   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAIG Jack   
       WALSCHEID Maximilian   *
       BOL Cees   
       BJERG Mikkel   *

    Kazistuta
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   *
       BOL Cees   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   

    Koronin
       SAGAN Peter   
       ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   
       HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   *
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   *
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       POWLESS Neilson   *
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   

    Laarsland
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       BOL Cees   

    Leadbelly
       THOMAS Geraint   
       BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   

    Lecko
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       MOHORIC Matej   *
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BOL Cees   
       GREIPEL André   

    Mellow Velo
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       MEURISSE Xandro   

    Northerner
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       HAIG Jack   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Otoxiep87
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       HAIG Jack   
       BOL Cees   

    Pantani Lives
       PHILIPSEN Jasper   *
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       HAIG Jack   
       PEDERSEN Casper Phillip   *
       GOGL Michael   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Ray 10
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       WOODS Michael   *
       COQUARD Bryan   
       BOL Cees   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       FORMOLO Davide   *
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   

    Redhead Dane
       SAGAN Peter   
       CATTANEO Mattia   *
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael   *
       VLIEGEN Loïc   *
       DILLIER Silvan   *
       NIEUWENHUIS Joris   *
       KLUGE Roger   *

    Rote Laterne
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   

    Rufs
       THOMAS Geraint   
       COLBRELLI Sonny   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       HAIG Jack   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       DE GENDT Thomas   *

    Salvarani
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       GAUDU David   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BOL Cees   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       TEUNISSEN Mike   *

    Search
       THOMAS Geraint   
       COLBRELLI Sonny   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       GREIPEL André   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Shalgo
       POGACAR Tadej   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   *
       MEURISSE Xandro   
       CHEVALIER Maxime   *
       FROOME Chris   

    Titan31
       THOMAS Geraint   
       EWAN Caleb   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       BISSEGGER Stefan   *
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       MCNULTY Brandon   

    Triley36
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       KUSS Sepp   *
       HAIG Jack   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   

    Vladimir
       GAUDU David   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       HAMILTON Lucas   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       GAUTIER Cyril   *

    Yellow Knight
       YATES Simon   *
       THOMAS Geraint   
       ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       MCNULTY Brandon   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   

    Zaka Fan
       SAGAN Peter   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       HAIG Jack   
       SKUJINS Toms   *
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   

    One team sent me their alternative team, and I have offered the chance to a couple of other teams, to track unselected lineups on the spreadsheet.  It is only a quick copy and paste if you would like me to do that for the team you didn't pick.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2021, 17:18 »
    74 of the 184 riders have been selected, and while no-one thought that it was worth putting 85% of their budget on Roglic's shoulders, three have decided to go big on Pogacar, costing 2/3 of the funds available.  It is probably fair to say that one day of the Tour de Suisse made a big difference to may selections.

    Rider popularity
    30 teams (out of 39): URAN URAN Rigoberto
    25: THOMAS Geraint
    19: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
    18: KELDERMAN Wilco
    17: HAIG Jack
    15: HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
    14: EWAN Caleb, GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
    I will treat that group of 8 as the Collective Wisdom team.  It is over budget (4107), but if I were to drop Ewan for the next most popular it would be way below, and would be even more similar to some of the teams.  It gives us something to compare ourselves with anyway.

    11: BUCHMANN Emanuel
    10: CAVENDISH Mark, HAMILTON Lucas, O'CONNOR Ben
    9: BOL Cees
    7: SAGAN Peter
    6: LUTSENKO Alexey, MCNULTY Brandon
    5: KRUIJSWIJK Steven
    4: CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio, COQUARD Bryan, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
    3: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello, FROOME Chris, GAUDU David, GREIPEL André, GUARNIERI Jacopo, POGACAR Tadej
    2: ARANBURU DEBA Alexander, COLBRELLI Sonny, GOGL Michael, MAJKA Rafal, MEINTJES Louis, MEURISSE Xandro


    There are a lot of fairly similar teams: 13 have Thomas, Uran and Lopez.  The minor picks could be key... (and I started writing that before Lopez became less of a GC candidate today)


    Picks of over 750 points
    Pogacar   with Sagan:   Blues in the Bottle
          Amis Velo, Shalgo
          
    Carapaz   with Woods:   Ray10
       with Thomas:   Archie Boy
       with Ewan:   Rote Laterne
       with Lopez:   Mellow Velo
          
    Alaphilippe   with Thomas and Ewan:   Bicycle Boy
       with Gaudu:   Salvarani
       with Sagan:   DJSprtsch
          
    Van der Poel   with Ewan and Lopez:   Blue Roads
          
    Porte   with Thomas:   BikeRacer33
          
    Gaudu   with Thomas and Lopez:   Vladimir
       with Thomas:   Comodoro
          
    Yates   with Thomas:   Yellow Knight
          
    Philipsen   with Ewan and Lopez:   Pantani Lives
          
    Sagan   with Thomas and Ewan:   Jon Ezeitza
       with Ewan and Lopez:   Zaka Fan
       with Ewan:   Earns1985
          Koronin, Redhead Dane
          
    Thomas   with Colbrelli and Ewan:   Rufs, Search
       with Ewan and Lopez:   Armchair Cyclist, Bminchow, Kazistuta, Northerner
       with Ewan:   Titan31
       with Lopez:   Alien Performance, Berflamand, Bonimenier, Del1962, Fivezzz, Googolplex, Laarsland, Lecko, Otoxiep87, Triley36
          Leadbelly


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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2021, 18:05 »
    Teams by popularity
    1      Fivezzz      144
    1      Northerner      144
    3      Berflamand      139
    4      Laarsland      138
    4      Otoxiep87      138
    6      Bonimenier      135
    7      AlienPerformance      132
    8      Armchair_Cyclist      131
    9      Del1962      128
    10      Bminchow      123
    10      Kazistuta      123
    10      Triley36      123
    13      Comodoro      119
    14      Lecko      115
    15      Rufs      114
    15      Titan31      114
    17      Leadbelly      113
    18      Rote_Laterne      111
    19      Vladimir      105
    20      ArchieBoy      104
    20      JonEzeitza      104
    22      BicycleBoy      103
    23      Mellow_Velo      98
    23      Search      98
    23      Yellow_Knight      98
    26      Earns1985      91
    26      Googolplex      91
    28      BikeRacer33      90
    28      ZakaFan      90
    30      AmisVelo      87
    31      Pantani_lives      86
    32      Salvarani      82
    33      BlueRoads      70
    34      Shalgo      64
    35      DJSprtsch      50
    36      Ray10      49
    37      BluesInTheBottle      47
    38      Koronin      26
    39      RedheadDane      23
          Collective_Wisdom      152


    There are no identical teams requiring a tiebreaker selection, but teams with 7 riders in common are:
    Bonimenier & Otoxiep87
    Fivezzz & Laarsland
    Laarsland & Otoxiep87
    and Northerner with the Collective Wisdom team.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #10 on: June 27, 2021, 02:04 »
    Stage 1 Falling like skittles, and Ala on a mur

    Green points
    For our new entrants (great to have you), these points cannot be lost, and are earned by the top ten in each stage.  Unlike the Tour's Green Jersey, the same points scale applies to every stage, so climbers can be just as valuable here as sprinters. 
    Riderpoints teams
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      80      3
    MATTHEWS Michael      50      0
    ROGLIC Primoz      35      0
    HAIG Jack      25      17
    KELDERMAN Wilco      15      18
    POGACAR Tadej      10      3
    GAUDU David      5      3
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      3      15
    MOLLEMA Bauke      2      0
    THOMAS Geraint      1      25

    I'll normally only give the top ten (or so) in this classification, but for today, let's all get a mention, as nearly everyone has scored.  The three Alaphilippe teams are clear to see: Salvaranni also has Gaudu and Higuita.
    1      Salvarani      88
    2      BicycleBoy      81
    3      DJSprtsch      80
    4      Bminchow      44
    4      Fivezzz      44
    6      AlienPerformance      41
    6      Berflamand      41
    6      Bonimenier      41
    6      Laarsland      41
    6      Otoxiep87      41
    11      Pantani_lives      40
    12      Northerner      29
    12      Rufs      29
    12      Triley36      29
    15      ZakaFan      28
    16      ArchieBoy      26
    16      Armchair_Cyclist      26
    16      JonEzeitza      26
    19      Earns1985      25
    19      Mellow_Velo      25
    21      Comodoro      24
    22      BikeRacer33      19
    23      Rote_Laterne      18
    24      Del1962      16
    24      Googolplex      16
    24      Leadbelly      16
    24      Lecko      16
    24      Search      16
    24      Titan31      16
    24      Yellow_Knight      16
    31      AmisVelo      13
    31      BluesInTheBottle      13
    33      Shalgo      10
    34      Vladimir      9
    35      Kazistuta      4
    36      Ray10      3
    37      BlueRoads      0
    37      Koronin      0
    37      RedheadDane      0
          Collective_Wisdom      44

    Yellow Points
    This is the main game: the points for each rider, and therefore the teams, are the sum of stage points, GC and sprint/KoM classifications projected as though current positions are held on the last stage, and the 20 points given each day to the overnight leader (Yellow jersey bonus).  Thus Alaphilippe now has 80 stage points +600 as putative GC winner as it stands + 80 as leader of the points classification + 50 as 2nd in polka dot category + 20 as overnight leader =830 points.  Because he can lose places in GC and the two jersey classifications, he can lose points, but the stage and yellow jersey points are secure, even if he were to fail to reach Paris.
    1      Salvarani      1452
    2      Fivezzz      1242
    3      BicycleBoy      1204
    4      Bminchow      1174
    5      Berflamand      1138
    6      AlienPerformance      1125
    7      Comodoro      1075
    8      Laarsland      1059
    9      DJSprtsch      1047
    10      Bonimenier      1026
    10      Otoxiep87      1026
    12      Triley36      1009
    13      Rufs      964
    14      Northerner      918
    15      Leadbelly      885
    16      BikeRacer33      875
    17      ZakaFan      834
    18      Pantani_lives      822
    19      Vladimir      817
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      784
    21      Rote_Laterne      778
    22      ArchieBoy      775
    23      Del1962      752
    24      JonEzeitza      728
    25      Titan31      719
    26      Search      713
    27      Googolplex      711
    28      Yellow_Knight      708
    29      AmisVelo      685
    30      Lecko      681
    31      Mellow_Velo      678
    32      BluesInTheBottle      625
    33      Earns1985      597
    34      Kazistuta      578
    35      Shalgo      519
    36      Ray10      412
    37      BlueRoads      318
    38      Koronin      311
    39      RedheadDane      190
          Collective_Wisdom      1208

    Last, but by no means least, is the inter-forum battle, with teams representing Cycling News Forum and VeloRooms, with the mean average score being taken for each group.  There have always been more teams in the CN camp, but this time the imbalance of numbers is more marked, which I guess makes the performance of each VR team more important.

    CN (AlienPerformance, Berflamand, BicycleBoy, BlueRoads, BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, Bonimenier, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Earns1985, Fivezzz, Googolplex, JonEzeitza, Kazistuta, Koronin, Laarsland, Lecko, Northerner, Pantani_lives, Ray10, RedheadDane, Rufs, Salvarani, Shalgo, Titan31, Triley36, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight)  825
    VR (AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote_Laterne, Search, ZakaFan)  805
    My score is not included in this: my neutrality is impeccable.


    To investigate further, the spreadsheet is updated (so long as I remember to press save) each night as I do the update, and is available at the same location (here) throughout, although I won't post the link every evening.

    And for the sake of my work, I hope I will normally have updates done rather earlier than this.


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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 00:31 »
    Stage 2 Mathieu on a mur, in Mûr

    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      80      1 (Blue Roads)
    POGACAR Tadej      50      3 (Amis Velo Blues in the Bottle Shalgo)
    ROGLIC Primoz      35      0
    KELDERMAN Wilco      25      18
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      15      3
    MOLLEMA Bauke      10      0
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      5      0
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      3      15
    LATOUR Pierre      2      0
    HAIG Jack      1      17

    Green points
    today
    1      BlueRoads      80
    2=      AmisVelo      53
    2=      BluesInTheBottle      53
    4      Shalgo      50
    5=      Bminchow      29
    5=      Fivezzz      29
    7=      BikeRacer33      28
    7=      Comodoro      28
    7=      Rote_Laterne      28
    10=      Six teams with Kelderman and Haig      26
    16=      Seven teams with Kelderman alone      25

    Standings
    The top eleven is yesterday's top ten, plus today's top scorer.  Some days several teams get multiple good scorers, some days they don't.
    1      Salvarani      106      0
    2      BicycleBoy      96      0
    3      DJSprtsch      95      0
    4      BlueRoads      80      33
    5      Bminchow      73      -1
    5      Fivezzz      73      -1
    7      AlienPerformance      67      -1
    7      Berflamand      67      -1
    7      Bonimenier      67      -1
    7      Laarsland      67      -1
    7      Otoxiep87      67      -1

    Yellow points
    I mentioned yesterday that because most of these points are projections, they can be lost.  Alaphilippe is still doing well, but he is now second, not first, in the GC rankings, and has fallen in the KoM rankings, so his score is still good, but 160 points lower than it was yesterday.
    I show the riders who are the main gainers and losers that have been selected each day, like these:
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      758      1
    POGACAR Tadej      203      3
    KELDERMAN Wilco      30      18
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven      24      5
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      22      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      20      11
    LUTSENKO Alexey      20      6
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc      -20      1
    BOIVIN Guillaume      -27      1
    GAUDU David      -71      3
    HAIG Jack      -72      17
    THOMAS Geraint      -88      25
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -160      3


    Team change on the day
    Because a rider's score can be negative on the day, so can a team's.
    1      BlueRoads      769
    2      AmisVelo      250
    3      Shalgo      215
    4      BluesInTheBottle      176
    5      Rote_Laterne      87
    6      Ray10      27
    7      Mellow_Velo      14
    8      Del1962      -3
    9      Koronin      -17
    10      RedheadDane      -21
    11      ZakaFan      -22
    12      BikeRacer33      -29
    13      Leadbelly      -30
    14      Search      -45
    15      Lecko      -46
    16      Pantani_lives      -48
    17      Googolplex      -55
    18      Yellow_Knight      -58
    19      Titan31      -61
    20      Earns1985      -63
    21      Kazistuta      -79
    22      Berflamand      -91
    22      Bminchow      -91
    24      Armchair_Cyclist      -104
    25      Fivezzz      -110
    26      Laarsland      -113
    27      Bonimenier      -119
    27      Otoxiep87      -119
    29      Triley36      -126
    30      AlienPerformance      -127
    31      Comodoro      -128
    32      Vladimir      -137
    33      Rufs      -140
    34      ArchieBoy      -145
    35      DJSprtsch      -148
    36      Northerner      -151
    37      JonEzeitza      -170
    38      Salvarani      -208
    39      BicycleBoy      -235
          Collective_Wisdom      -121

    Standings
    So although Salvarani lost a load of points today, he is still top of the game: daily scores can be misleading. And we can probably assume that rises of 34 places only happen in the very early stages of the game.
    1      Salvarani      1244      0
    2      Fivezzz      1132      0
    3      BlueRoads      1087      34
    4      Bminchow      1083      0
    5      Berflamand      1047      0
    6      AlienPerformance      998      0
    7      BicycleBoy      969      -4
    8      Comodoro      947      -1
    9      Laarsland      946      -1
    10      AmisVelo      935      19
    11      Bonimenier      907      -1
    11      Otoxiep87      907      -1
    13      DJSprtsch      899      -4
    14      Triley36      883      -2
    15      Rote_Laterne      865      6
    16      Leadbelly      855      -1
    17      BikeRacer33      846      -1
    18      Rufs      824      -5
    19      ZakaFan      812      -2
    20      BluesInTheBottle      801      12
    21      Pantani_lives      774      -3
    22      Northerner      767      -8
    23      Del1962      749      0
    24      Shalgo      734      11
    25      Mellow_Velo      692      6
    26      Armchair_Cyclist      680      -6
    26      Vladimir      680      -7
    28      Search      668      -2
    29      Titan31      658      -4
    30      Googolplex      656      -3
    31      Yellow_Knight      650      -3
    32      Lecko      635      -2
    33      ArchieBoy      630      -11
    34      JonEzeitza      558      -10
    35      Earns1985      534      -2
    36      Kazistuta      499      -2
    37      Ray10      439      -1
    38      Koronin      294      0
    39      RedheadDane      169      0
          Collective_Wisdom      1087   

    Velorooms has taken the lead, 801 to778


    Sprint stages, like tomorrow, usually see little change other than the stage points and the yellow bonus.  But tomorrow might not be a typical sprint.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2021, 20:09 »
    Stage 3  Falls all over the place, and a sprint from a very small group

    My last words yesterday were, "But tomorrow might not be a typical sprint," but I don't think any of us expected that.
    Even the sprinters that were chosen were not the ones to score most.
    MERLIER Tim      80      0
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      50      1
    BOUHANNI Nacer      35      0
    BALLERINI Davide      25      0
    COLBRELLI Sonny      15      2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      10      3
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      5      1
    BOL Cees      3      9
    TURGIS Anthony      2      0
    WALSCHEID Maximilian      1      1

    Green points
    Today:
    1      Pantani_lives      50
    2=      Rufs      15
    2=      Search      15
    4      Salvarani      13
    5=      BicycleBoy      10
    5=      DJSprtsch      10
    7      BlueRoads      5
    8      JonEzeitza      4
    9=      Seven teams with Bol      3

    Standings
    As yesterday, only one team breaks into the previous top ten.
    1      Salvarani      119      0
    2      Pantani_lives      116      10
    3      BicycleBoy      106      -1
    4      DJSprtsch      105      -1
    5      BlueRoads      85      -1
    6=      Bminchow      73      -1
    6=      Fivezzz      73      -1
    8=      Laarsland      70      -1
    8=      Otoxiep87      70      -1
    10=      AlienPerformance      67      -3
    10=      Berflamand      67      -3
    10=      Bonimenier      67      -3

    Yellow points
    Carapaz aside, few riders increased their standings (and therefore their projected points) by positive action, and more by passing those who lost position due to misfortune. 
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      298      4
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      90      1
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      60      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      31      2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      10      3
    THOMAS Geraint      10      25
    LUTSENKO Alexey      -10      6
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      -14      19
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven      -18      5
    GAUDU David      -30      3
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      -35      2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -40      15
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -59      3
    POGACAR Tadej      -130      3
    HAIG Jack      -262      17

    Ray10 has Carapaz, but Higuita; Rote Laterne has Carapaz, but Higuita and Kruijswijk; and the other Carapaz teams, Archie Boy and Mellow Velo, have the gains wiped out by Haig (and Kruijswijk and Lopez in MV's case).  The unexpected bonus of Quintana gaining 90 points on a sprint stage is gained by Del1962.

    1      Ray10      270
    2      Rote_Laterne      244
    3      Del1962      90
    4      ArchieBoy      59
    5      Search      45
    6      BicycleBoy      32
    7      Mellow_Velo      24
    8      DJSprtsch      20
    9      Titan31      18
    10      Lecko      4
    11      RedheadDane      2
    12      BlueRoads      -7
    13      Yellow_Knight      -27
    14      Kazistuta      -35
    15      BikeRacer33      -44
    16      Salvarani      -45
    17      Koronin      -46
    18      Leadbelly      -53
    19      Comodoro      -60
    19      Vladimir      -60
    21      Googolplex      -68
    22      Shalgo      -116
    23      BluesInTheBottle      -170
    24      AmisVelo      -176
    25      Pantani_lives      -224
    26      JonEzeitza      -242
    27      Rufs      -247
    28      Earns1985      -250
    29      Laarsland      -255
    30      Otoxiep87      -263
    31      Armchair_Cyclist      -264
    32      Bonimenier      -266
    33      Berflamand      -270
    34      Fivezzz      -298
    35      Northerner      -300
    36      Triley36      -308
    37      ZakaFan      -316
    38      Bminchow      -324
    39      AlienPerformance      -327
          Collective_Wisdom      -308

    Standings
    Another drop in points for our leader, but still no-one can catch him.
    1      Salvarani      1199      0
    2      Rote_Laterne      1109      13
    3      BlueRoads      1080      0
    4      BicycleBoy      1001      3
    5      DJSprtsch      919      8
    6      Comodoro      887      2
    7      Del1962      839      16
    8      Fivezzz      834      -6
    9      BikeRacer33      802      8
    9      Leadbelly      802      7
    11      Berflamand      777      -6
    12      AmisVelo      759      -2
    12      Bminchow      759      -8
    14      Mellow_Velo      716      11
    15      Search      713      13
    16      Ray10      709      21
    17      Laarsland      691      -8
    18      ArchieBoy      689      15
    19      Titan31      676      10
    20      AlienPerformance      671      -14
    21      Otoxiep87      644      -10
    22      Bonimenier      641      -11
    23      Lecko      639      9
    24      BluesInTheBottle      631      -4
    25      Yellow_Knight      623      6
    26      Vladimir      620      0
    27      Shalgo      618      -3
    28      Googolplex      588      2
    29      Rufs      577      -11
    30      Triley36      575      -16
    31      Pantani_lives      550      -10
    32      ZakaFan      496      -13
    33      Northerner      467      -11
    34      Kazistuta      464      2
    35      Armchair_Cyclist      416      -9
    36      JonEzeitza      316      -2
    37      Earns1985      284      -2
    38      Koronin      248      0
    39      RedheadDane      171      0
          Collective_Wisdom      779   

    As befits my position in the game, I should give in predicting how tomorrow will go.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2021, 22:46 »
    Stage 4 Heartbreak for van Moer, then Cav rolls back the years.

    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    BOUHANNI Nacer      50      0
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    MATTHEWS Michael      25      0
    SAGAN Peter      15      7
    BOL Cees      10      9
    LAPORTE Christophe      5      1
    PEDERSEN Mads      3      0
    VAN POPPEL Boy      2      0
    GREIPEL André      1      3

    Green points
    Today:
    Some teams seem more made for stage points like today's than trying to harvest the GC points: Earns (a new player, good to see rookies making an impression on the game) has Cavendish, Sagan and Laporte, and 5 teams have Cavendish and Bol (and two of them also have Greipel)
    1      Earns1985      100
    2=      Googolplex      91
    2=      Lecko      91
    4=      Kazistuta      90
    4=      Otoxiep87      90
    4=      Salvarani      90
    7=      Bonimenier      80
    7=      Del1962      80
    7=      Leadbelly      80
    7=      Northerner      80
    11      Pantani_lives      35

    Standings
    Most of those who have been high in the rankings since stage 1 have now dropped away, but the manager who has been top since then extends his lead.
    1      Salvarani      209      0
    2      Otoxiep87      160      6
    3      Pantani_lives      151      -1
    4      Bonimenier      147      6
    5=      Googolplex      135      16
    5=      Lecko      135      16
    7      Earns1985      126      26
    8=      Del1962      121      15
    8=      Leadbelly      121      15
    10      DJSprtsch      120      -6


    Yellow points
    There are changes in the Points classification, and a few swaps of GC position on countback among riders on the same time, but most of today's points are from the finish.
    CAVENDISH Mark      160      10
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    GAUDU David      30      3
    LUTSENKO Alexey      20      6
    SAGAN Peter      18      7
    BOL Cees      10      9
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      10      30
    POGACAR Tadej      -14      3
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -15      1
    EWAN Caleb      -23      14
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -30      3
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -30      15

    No prizes for spotting the 10 teams with Cavendish
    1      Leadbelly      188
    2      Lecko      179
    3      Otoxiep87      178
    4      Earns1985      170
    5      Googolplex      169
    6      Bonimenier      168
    6      Del1962      168
    8      Salvarani      150
    9      Kazistuta      127
    10      Northerner      117
    11      Koronin      34
    12      Berflamand      28
    13      ArchieBoy      20
    14      Laarsland      18
    14      RedheadDane      18
    16      JonEzeitza      15
    17      Pantani_lives      10
    17      Vladimir      10
    19      AlienPerformance      8
    19      Comodoro      8
    21      Mellow_Velo      6
    22      Yellow_Knight      4
    23      DJSprtsch      2
    24      Triley36      0
    25      Shalgo      -8
    26      BikeRacer33      -12
    27      Armchair_Cyclist      -13
    28      Titan31      -15
    28      ZakaFan      -15
    30      Search      -16
    31      Ray10      -18
    32      Fivezzz      -22
    33      BluesInTheBottle      -26
    34      BlueRoads      -32
    35      AmisVelo      -34
    36      Rufs      -41
    37      BicycleBoy      -43
    38      Rote_Laterne      -45
    39      Bminchow      -55
          Collective_Wisdom      -45

    Standings
    That lead grows a lot today: Rote Laterne and Blue Roads hang on the the podium positions despite negative scores today.

    1      Salvarani      1349      0
    2      Rote_Laterne      1064      0
    3      BlueRoads      1048      0
    4      Del1962      1007      3
    5      Leadbelly      990      4
    6      BicycleBoy      958      -2
    7      DJSprtsch      921      -2
    8      Comodoro      895      -2
    9      Otoxiep87      822      12
    10      Lecko      818      13
    11      Fivezzz      812      -3
    12      Bonimenier      809      10
    13      Berflamand      805      -2
    14      BikeRacer33      790      -5
    15      Googolplex      757      13
    16      AmisVelo      725      -4
    17      Mellow_Velo      722      -3
    18      ArchieBoy      709      0
    18      Laarsland      709      -1
    20      Bminchow      704      -8
    21      Search      697      -6
    22      Ray10      691      -6
    23      AlienPerformance      679      -3
    24      Titan31      661      -5
    25      Vladimir      630      1
    26      Yellow_Knight      627      -1
    27      Shalgo      610      0
    28      BluesInTheBottle      605      -4
    29      Kazistuta      591      5
    30      Northerner      584      3
    31      Triley36      575      -1
    32      Pantani_lives      560      -1
    33      Rufs      536      -4
    34      ZakaFan      481      -2
    35      Earns1985      454      2
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      403      -1
    37      JonEzeitza      331      -1
    38      Koronin      282      0
    39      RedheadDane      189      0
          Collective_Wisdom      734   

    Time trials are likely to bring considerable change to the tables, and we should see some of the riders who do not have trus GC potential drop down the GC rankings a bit, so we should get closer to a realistic table.   "should".
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #14 on: July 01, 2021, 01:07 »
    Stage 5TT

    It's late: I won't be adding much prose.
    POGACAR Tadej      80      3
    KÜNG Stefan      50      0
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      35      0
    VAN AERT Wout      25      0
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      15      1
    ASGREEN Kasper      10      0
    ROGLIC Primoz      5      0
    CATTANEO Mattia      3      1
    PORTE Richie      2      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      1      6

    Green
    Today:
    1=      AmisVelo      80
    1=      BluesInTheBottle      80
    1=      Shalgo      80
    4      BlueRoads      15
    5=      BikeRacer33      3
    5=      RedheadDane      3
    7=      Berflamand      1
    7=      Koronin      1
    7=      Leadbelly      1
    7=      Triley36      1
    7=      ZakaFan      1

    Standings
    1      Salvarani      209      0
    2      BluesInTheBottle      161      13
    3      Otoxiep87      160      -1
    4      Pantani_lives      151      -1
    5      Bonimenier      147      -1
    6      AmisVelo      146      15
    7      Shalgo      140      15
    8      Googolplex      135      -3
    8      Lecko      135      -3
    10      Earns1985      126      -3

    Yellow
    Lots of GC movement
    POGACAR Tadej      279      3
    LUTSENKO Alexey      151      6
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      120      30
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      55      1
    THOMAS Geraint      48      25
    PORTE Richie      31      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      -24      2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -58      15
    GAUDU David      -72      3
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -118      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -130      3
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -170      18
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      -200      4

    1      Shalgo      392
    2      AmisVelo      351
    3      Triley36      281
    4      BluesInTheBottle      219
    5      Armchair_Cyclist      176
    6      BlueRoads      175
    7      JonEzeitza      166
    8      Leadbelly      163
    9      Koronin      152
    10      Berflamand      147
    11      Kazistuta      118
    11      Northerner      118
    13      Earns1985      114
    14      ZakaFan      91
    15      Rufs      76
    16      Vladimir      36
    17      BicycleBoy      34
    18      RedheadDane      19
    19      Bonimenier      18
    19      Otoxiep87      18
    21      Lecko      15
    22      BikeRacer33      14
    23      AlienPerformance      12
    24      Laarsland      8
    25      Titan31      0
    26      Yellow_Knight      -2
    27      DJSprtsch      -23
    28      Search      -34
    29      ArchieBoy      -42
    30      Fivezzz      -50
    31      Mellow_Velo      -69
    32      Googolplex      -108
    33      Del1962      -116
    34      Comodoro      -120
    35      Salvarani      -144
    36      Pantani_lives      -167
    37      Bminchow      -168
    38      Ray10      -269
    39      Rote_Laterne      -298
          Collective_Wisdom      -52

    Standings
    Pogacar teams move up, but thus far they are 4th, 5th and 14th.  GC hits to Alaphilippe, Gaudu and Higuita topple Salvarani from the lead.
    1      BlueRoads      1223      2
    2      Salvarani      1205      -1
    3      Leadbelly      1153      2
    4      AmisVelo      1076      12
    5      Shalgo      1002      22
    6      BicycleBoy      992      0
    7      Berflamand      952      6
    8      DJSprtsch      898      -1
    9      Del1962      891      -5
    10      Triley36      856      21
    11      Otoxiep87      840      -2
    12      Lecko      833      -2
    13      Bonimenier      827      -1
    14      BluesInTheBottle      824      14
    15      BikeRacer33      804      -1
    16      Comodoro      775      -8
    17      Rote_Laterne      766      -15
    18      Fivezzz      762      -7
    19      Laarsland      717      -1
    20      Kazistuta      709      9
    21      Northerner      702      9
    22      AlienPerformance      691      1
    23      ArchieBoy      667      -5
    24      Vladimir      666      1
    25      Search      663      -4
    26      Titan31      661      -2
    27      Mellow_Velo      653      -10
    28      Googolplex      649      -13
    29      Yellow_Knight      625      -3
    30      Rufs      612      3
    31      Armchair_Cyclist      579      5
    32      ZakaFan      572      2
    33      Earns1985      568      2
    34      Bminchow      536      -14
    35      JonEzeitza      497      2
    36      Koronin      434      2
    37      Ray10      422      -15
    38      Pantani_lives      393      -6
    39      RedheadDane      208      0
          Collective_Wisdom      682   

    That ought to be the biggest shake up for a few days.

    VR  799
    CN 729

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #15 on: July 01, 2021, 18:31 »
    Stage 6 Chateauxroux III, this time it's personal

    It was too late for me to add much comment on the results for stage 5, today it is simply that there is little to comment on as it was the archetypal sprint stage.

    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      50      1
    BOUHANNI Nacer      35      0
    DEMARE Arnaud      25      0
    SAGAN Peter      15      7
    BOL Cees      10      9
    MERLIER Tim      5      0
    VAN AERT Wout      3      0
    MATTHEWS Michael      2      0
    PEDERSEN Mads      1      0

     Green

    Points today:
    1      Earns1985      95Cavendish & Sagan
    2=      Googolplex/Kazistuta/Lecko/Otoxiep87/Salvarani   90 Cavendish & Bol
    7=      Bonimenier/Del1962/Leadbelly/Northerner      80 Cavendish
    11      Pantani_lives      50 Philipsen
    12      JonEzeitza      25 Sagan & Bol
    13      BluesInTheBottle/DJSprtsch/Koronin/RedheadDane/ZakaFan      15 Sagan
    18      ArchieBoy/Laarsland/Ray10      10 Bol

    Standings:
    Only 9 of the Cavendish teams are in this top ten: the other one is 11th.  Pantani Lives, courtesy of Philipsen, is the interloper.
    1      Salvarani      299      0
    2      Otoxiep87      250      1
    3      Bonimenier      227      2
    4      Googolplex      225      4
    4      Lecko      225      4
    6      Earns1985      221      4
    7      Leadbelly      202      4
    8      Del1962      201      4
    8      Pantani_lives      201      -4
    10      Northerner      193      4

    Yellow points
    20 for MvdP as the yellow jersey wearer, to mitigiate his losses in the points 'classement', but hardly any GC change to effect the scores.  Because Philipsen could move up in the green jersey placings and Cav couldn't (already being top), he has more of a point boost today.

    PHILIPSEN Jasper      95      1
    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    SAGAN Peter      19      7
    BOL Cees      10      9
    MEURISSE Xandro      -5      2
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -5      1
    POGACAR Tadej      -8      3
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -35      3


    1      Earns1985      99
    2      Pantani_lives      97
    3      Lecko      94
    3      Otoxiep87      94
    5      Googolplex      92
    5      Kazistuta      92
    7      Bonimenier      84
    8      Del1962      82
    8      Leadbelly      82
    8      Northerner      82
    11      Salvarani      55
    12      JonEzeitza      29
    13      RedheadDane      23
    14      ZakaFan      21
    15      Laarsland      14
    16      Koronin      12
    17      BluesInTheBottle      11
    17      Ray10      11
    19      ArchieBoy      10
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      4
    20      Bminchow      4
    20      Fivezzz      4
    20      Search      4
    20      Triley36      4
    25      Rufs      3
    26      AlienPerformance      2
    26      Berflamand      2
    26      BikeRacer33      2
    26      Comodoro      2
    26      Rote_Laterne      2
    26      Titan31      2
    26      Vladimir      2
    33      Mellow_Velo      -1
    34      BlueRoads      -2
    35      Yellow_Knight      -4
    36      AmisVelo      -6
    37      Shalgo      -13
    38      DJSprtsch      -15
    39      BicycleBoy      -35
          Collective_Wisdom      2

    Standings
    Salvarani was not out of the lead for long:
    1      Salvarani      1260      1
    2      Leadbelly      1235      1
    3      BlueRoads      1221      -2
    4      AmisVelo      1070      0
    5      Shalgo      989      0
    6      Del1962      973      3
    7      BicycleBoy      957      -1
    8      Berflamand      954      -1
    9      Otoxiep87      934      2
    10      Lecko      927      2
    11      Bonimenier      911      2
    12      DJSprtsch      883      -4
    13      Triley36      860      -3
    14      BluesInTheBottle      835      0
    15      BikeRacer33      806      0
    16      Kazistuta      801      4
    17      Northerner      784      4
    18      Comodoro      777      -2
    19      Rote_Laterne      768      -2
    20      Fivezzz      766      -2
    21      Googolplex      741      7
    22      Laarsland      731      -3
    23      AlienPerformance      693      -1
    24      ArchieBoy      677      -1
    25      Vladimir      668      -1
    26      Earns1985      667      7
    26      Search      667      -1
    28      Titan31      663      -2
    29      Mellow_Velo      652      -2
    30      Yellow_Knight      621      -1
    31      Rufs      615      -1
    32      ZakaFan      593      0
    33      Armchair_Cyclist      583      -2
    34      Bminchow      540      0
    35      JonEzeitza      526      0
    36      Pantani_lives      490      2
    37      Koronin      446      -1
    38      Ray10      433      -1
    39      RedheadDane      231      0
          Collective_Wisdom      684   
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #16 on: July 03, 2021, 00:04 »

    Stage 7 The Morvans might be more interesting than the Alps or Pyrenees

    But not for the stage points
    MOHORIC Matej      80      1
    STUYVEN Jasper      50      0
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      35      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      25      1
    ASGREEN Kasper      15      0
    BONNAMOUR Franck      10      0
    KONRAD Patrick      5      1
    VAN AERT Wout      3      0
    VAN MOER Brent      2      0
    GODON Dorian      1      0

    1      Lecko      80
    2      BikeRacer33      35
    3      BlueRoads      25
    4      DJSprtsch      5
    Of these, only Lecko is in the top 10 in the Green points classification, and he moves from joint 4th to top, removing Salvarani who has been there since stage 1.

    Yellow points
    Although there was very little of game relevance in the stage result, it has given the GC a real shake-up, such that among the top 23 riders this morning, only MvdP is in the same position this evening.
    MOHORIC Matej      437      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      70      1
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      48      1
    SKUJINS Toms      29      1
    MEURISSE Xandro      12      2
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -10      18
    THOMAS Geraint      -10      25
    GAUDU David      -11      3
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      -15      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      -35      2
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      -50      4
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -62      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      -70      30
    LUTSENKO Alexey      -90      6
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -115      3
    POGACAR Tadej      -168      3

    Many of those gains and losses will be reversed over the weekend, but not, I suspect, all of them.

    Only three scores in the black, of which one has a huge score and one is a random selection.
    1      Lecko      355
    2      BlueRoads      21
    3      RedheadDane      7
    4      Bminchow      -13
    5      Googolplex      -14
    6      Pantani_lives      -17
    7      Ray10      -49
    8      ZakaFan      -54
    9      BikeRacer33      -61
    10      Armchair_Cyclist      -64
    11      Earns1985      -66
    12      Bonimenier      -76
    12      Laarsland      -76
    12      Otoxiep87      -76
    15      Kazistuta      -77
    15      Northerner      -77
    17      JonEzeitza      -80
    18      Fivezzz      -81
    19      Koronin      -82
    20      AlienPerformance      -84
    20      Titan31      -84
    20      Yellow_Knight      -84
    23      Vladimir      -88
    24      Mellow_Velo      -92
    25      Comodoro      -100
    26      Search      -113
    27      Rufs      -120
    28      ArchieBoy      -124
    29      Rote_Laterne      -127
    30      Del1962      -140
    31      Triley36      -161
    32      Berflamand      -172
    32      Leadbelly      -172
    34      BluesInTheBottle      -173
    35      DJSprtsch      -178
    36      BicycleBoy      -191
    37      Salvarani      -197
    38      Shalgo      -226
    39      AmisVelo      -235
          Collective_Wisdom      -87

    Standings

    The teams that suffered the greatest losses today were largely those at the top of the table, which is why such a leap to the top became possible.
    1      Lecko      1282      9
    2      BlueRoads      1242      1
    3      Leadbelly      1063      -1
    3      Salvarani      1063      -2
    5      Otoxiep87      858      4
    6      AmisVelo      835      -2
    6      Bonimenier      835      5
    8      Del1962      833      -2
    9      Berflamand      782      -1
    10      BicycleBoy      766      -3
    11      Shalgo      763      -6
    12      BikeRacer33      745      3
    13      Googolplex      727      8
    14      Kazistuta      724      2
    15      Northerner      707      2
    16      DJSprtsch      705      -4
    17      Triley36      699      -4
    18      Fivezzz      685      2
    19      Comodoro      677      -1
    20      BluesInTheBottle      662      -6
    21      Laarsland      655      1
    22      Rote_Laterne      641      -3
    23      AlienPerformance      609      0
    24      Earns1985      601      2
    25      Vladimir      580      0
    26      Titan31      579      2
    27      Mellow_Velo      560      2
    28      Search      554      -2
    29      ArchieBoy      553      -5
    30      ZakaFan      539      2
    31      Yellow_Knight      537      -1
    32      Bminchow      527      2
    33      Armchair_Cyclist      519      0
    34      Rufs      495      -3
    35      Pantani_lives      473      1
    36      JonEzeitza      446      -1
    37      Ray10      384      1
    38      Koronin      364      -1
    39      RedheadDane      238      0
          Collective_Wisdom      597   

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #17 on: July 03, 2021, 19:07 »
    Stage 8 Well that looks pretty decisive

    TEUNS Dylan      80      0
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      50      0
    WOODS Michael      35      1
    POGACAR Tadej      25      3
    POELS Wout      15      1
    YATES Simon      10      1
    PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien      5      0
    MARTIN Guillaume      3      0
    CATTANEO Mattia      2      1
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      1      0

    1      Ray10      35
    2=      AmisVelo/BluesInTheBottle/Shalgo      25
    5      DJSprtsch      15
    6      Yellow_Knight      10
    7      RedheadDane      2
    BitB moves up from 12th to joint 8th, the rest of today's scorers are fairly low in the Green classification.



    Yellow points
    You thought the point changes were big yesterday?
    POGACAR Tadej      369      3
    LUTSENKO Alexey      180      6
    POELS Wout      160      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      160      30
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      130      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      120      18
    WOODS Michael      108      1
    GAUDU David      103      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      95      3
    YATES Simon      72      1
    O'CONNOR Ben      59      10
    CATTANEO Mattia      50      1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      34      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      -26      11
    HAMILTON Lucas      -27      10
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -44      15
    SKUJINS Toms      -58      1
    THOMAS Geraint      -94      25
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -179      3
    MOHORIC Matej      -333      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -587      1


    1      Shalgo      514   Pogacar and Uran but Hamilton
    2      Leadbelly      494   Lutsenko/Uran/Kelderman/Bilbao and O'Connor but Buchmann and Thomas
    3      AmisVelo      459   Pogacar and Uran but Buchmann and Higuita
    4      Rote_Laterne      340    Uran/Crapaz/Kelderman but Buchmann and Higuita
    5      Berflamand      337   Lutsenko/Uran/Kelderman but Hamilton and Thomas
    6      BluesInTheBottle      322    Pogacar but Higuita
    7      Comodoro      304   Uran/Kelderman/Gaudu/O'Connor but Higuita and Thomas
    8      AlienPerformance      279   
    9      Triley36      261   
    10      Yellow_Knight      258   
    11      Bonimenier      243   
    11      Otoxiep87      243   
    13      Mellow_Velo      230   
    14      Titan31      218   
    15      Laarsland      216   
    15      Search      216   
    17      BikeRacer33      204   
    18      ArchieBoy      196   
    19      Del1962      192   
    20      Ray10      177   
    21      Fivezzz      172   
    22      Koronin      169   
    23      DJSprtsch      138   
    24      Earns1985      131   
    25      Googolplex      119   
    26      Pantani_lives      108   
    27      RedheadDane      106   
    28      Vladimir      96   
    29      JonEzeitza      63   
    30      ZakaFan      47   
    31      Kazistuta      20   
    31      Northerner      20   
    33      Salvarani      14   
    34      Armchair_Cyclist      11   
    35      Rufs      2   
    36      Bminchow      -47   
    37      BicycleBoy      -139   
    38      Lecko      -149   
    39      BlueRoads      -406   
          Collective_Wisdom      140   


    Standings

    The teams who were first and second this morning were the last two in the daily scores,opening the door for Leadbelly to step up from third to take the lead with what looks like a very healthy margin.  But he doesn't have Pogacar, and the other virtual podium teams do.
    1      Leadbelly      1557      2
    2      AmisVelo      1294      4
    3      Shalgo      1277      8
    4      Lecko      1133      -3
    5      Berflamand      1119      4
    6      Otoxiep87      1101      -1
    7      Bonimenier      1078      -1
    8      Salvarani      1077      -5
    9      Del1962      1025      -1
    10      BluesInTheBottle      984      10
    11      Comodoro      981      8
    11      Rote_Laterne      981      11
    13      Triley36      960      4
    14      BikeRacer33      949      -2
    15      AlienPerformance      888      8
    16      Laarsland      871      5
    17      Fivezzz      857      1
    18      Googolplex      846      -5
    19      DJSprtsch      843      -3
    20      BlueRoads      836      -18
    21      Titan31      797      5
    22      Yellow_Knight      795      9
    23      Mellow_Velo      790      4
    24      Search      770      4
    25      ArchieBoy      749      4
    26      Kazistuta      744      -12
    27      Earns1985      732      -3
    28      Northerner      727      -13
    29      Vladimir      676      -4
    30      BicycleBoy      627      -20
    31      ZakaFan      586      -1
    32      Pantani_lives      581      3
    33      Ray10      561      4
    34      Koronin      533      4
    35      Armchair_Cyclist      530      -2
    36      JonEzeitza      509      0
    37      Rufs      497      -3
    38      Bminchow      480      -6
    39      RedheadDane      344      0
          Collective_Wisdom      737   

    So, can a team of balanced spends with a sprinter and a bunch of top five contenders see off those with the very expensive winner and, essentially, cheap makeweights?  We will see as the yellow jersey bonus points pile up.  There again, the fall down the GC table that must be expected from Van Aert cannot benefit Pogacar's score, and it can boost other riders'.

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #18 on: July 04, 2021, 23:16 »
    Stage 9 Tignes in the rain, and almost giving away Yellow

    O'CONNOR Ben      80      10
    CATTANEO Mattia      50      1 (Redhead Dane)
    COLBRELLI Sonny      35      2 (Rufs & Search)
    MARTIN Guillaume      25      0
    BONNAMOUR Franck      15      0
    POGACAR Tadej      10      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      5      4
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      3      0
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      2      0
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      1      30

    Green points
    Today
     If ever cycling results seem a bit predictable, consider that the top team today was created by a random number generator
    1      RedheadDane      130
    2=      Bonimenier/Comodoro/Fivezzz/Laarsland/Leadbelly/Otoxiep87/Titan31/Triley36      81
    10      BikeRacer33      80
    11=      Rufs/Search      36
    13=      AmisVelo/Shalgo      11
    15      BluesInTheBottle      10

    Up to rest day one, the highest green point scorers (those who have at least a 2nd on a stage or the points equivalent, if they were selected:
    POGACAR Tadej      175      3
    CAVENDISH Mark      160      10
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      135      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      125      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      105      3
    MOHORIC Matej      80      1
    O'CONNOR Ben      80      10
    CATTANEO Mattia      55      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      50      2

    Standings

    I normally only give the top ten, but to give you something to ponder on rest day, here's everyone, and those from the above list on the teams of the top fifteen.

    1      Otoxiep87      331      2Cavendish & O'Connor
    2      Bonimenier      308      2 Cavendish & O'Connor
    3      Lecko      306      -2Cavendish & Mohoric
    4      Salvarani      300      -2 Cavendish & Alaphilippe
    5      Leadbelly      283      2 Cavendish & O'Connor
    6      Googolplex      225      -1 Cavendish
    7      Earns1985      222      -1 Cavendish
    8      BluesInTheBottle      211      0 Pogacar
    9      Del1962      202      -1 Cavendish
    10      Pantani_lives      201      -2 Philipsen
    11      Northerner      194      0 Cavendish
    12      Kazistuta      191      0 Cavendish
    13      AmisVelo      182      0 Pogacar
    14      Shalgo      176      0 Pogacar
    15      Laarsland      171      3
    16      BikeRacer33      165      3
    16      RedheadDane      165      18
    18      DJSprtsch      156      -3
    19      Fivezzz      154      2
    20      Comodoro      133      8
    21      BlueRoads      126      -5
    22      Titan31      122      11
    23      Triley36      115      12
    24      BicycleBoy      107      -7
    25      Search      93      2
    26      Rufs      84      5
    27      JonEzeitza      82      -7
    28      Bminchow      73      -7
    29      Berflamand      69      -6
    29      Ray10      69      -4
    31      AlienPerformance      68      -7
    32      ZakaFan      63      -6
    33      ArchieBoy      56      -3
    34      Rote_Laterne      52      -2
    34      Yellow_Knight      52      -5
    36      Mellow_Velo      32      2
    37      Koronin      31      -1
    38      Armchair_Cyclist      28      -1
    39      Vladimir      13      0
          Collective_Wisdom      74      


    Yellow points
    Most of the points that top ten riders might have gained by overtaking Van Aert as he dropped away from contention were lost to being passed on GC by O'Connor.  There were 12 riders who didn't start, didn't finish or were outside the time limit today, 5 of whom had been picked.

    O'CONNOR Ben      445      10
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      120      1
    CATTANEO Mattia      104      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      87      2
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      61      30
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      37      15
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      35      4
    THOMAS Geraint      27      25
    KONRAD Patrick      23      1
    POGACAR Tadej      19      3
    FORMOLO Davide      17      1
    MEINTJES Louis      10      2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -16      3
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      -19      19
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -20      3
    COQUARD Bryan      -20      4
    DLAMINI Nicholas      -20      1
    GAUDU David      -20      3
    GUARNIERI Jacopo      -20      3
    VLIEGEN Loïc      -20      1
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven      -22      5
    PORTE Richie      -23      1
    MOHORIC Matej      -32      1
    YATES Simon      -33      1
    POELS Wout      -63      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -98      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      -180      6

    As a bit of extra rest day interest, here are the riders, selected by our managers, who have 100 points or more
    POGACAR Tadej      822      3
    O'CONNOR Ben      555      10
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      381      30
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      295      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      270      18
    CAVENDISH Mark      260      10
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      245      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      201      6
    CATTANEO Mattia      186      1
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      180      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      175      3
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      174      1
    GAUDU David      165      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      140      3
    COLBRELLI Sonny      132      2
    POELS Wout      132      1
    WOODS Michael      122      1
    MOHORIC Matej      115      1

    Standings
    As above, I have shown the scorers that make the list above for some of our higher scoring teams.
    1      Leadbelly      1881      0   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman/Cavendish/Lutsenko/Bilbao
    2      Otoxiep87      1615      4   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman/Cavendish
    3      Bonimenier      1592      4   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman/Cavendish
    4      Comodoro      1511      7   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman/Gaudu
    5      Fivezzz      1400      12   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman
    6      Laarsland      1377      10   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman
    7      AmisVelo      1360      -5   Pogacar/Uran
    8      Shalgo      1335      -5   Pogacar/Uran
    9      Triley36      1329      4   O'Connor/Uran/Lutsenko
    10      Titan31      1322      11   O'Connor/Uran/Kelderman
    11      BikeRacer33      1255      3   O'Connor/Kelderman/Lutsenko
    12      Del1962      1205      -3   Uran/Kelderman/Cavendish/Quintana
    13      Lecko      1170      -9   Uran/Kelderman/Cavendish/Mohoric
    14      Salvarani      1130      -6   Uran/Cavendish/Alaphilippe/Gaudu
    15      Rote_Laterne      1083      -4   Uran/Carapaz/Kelderman
    16      BluesInTheBottle      1001      -6   Pogacar
    17      Berflamand      1000      -12   Uran/Carapaz/Kelderman
    18      Search      955      6   
    19      AlienPerformance      937      -4   
    20      RedheadDane      874      19   
    21      ArchieBoy      864      4   
    22      Kazistuta      850      4   
    22      Yellow_Knight      850      0   
    24      DJSprtsch      849      -5   
    25      Northerner      833      3   
    26      Mellow_Velo      821      -3   
    27      Googolplex      814      -9   
    28      BlueRoads      789      -8   
    29      Earns1985      785      -2   
    30      Vladimir      754      -1   
    31      Rufs      701      6   
    32      BicycleBoy      670      -2   
    33      Ray10      615      0   
    34      JonEzeitza      598      2   
    35      Pantani_lives      562      -3   
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      560      -1   
    37      Bminchow      495      1   
    38      ZakaFan      412      -7   
    39      Koronin      334      -5   
          Collective_Wisdom      843         

    Velorooms: 1138
    CyclingNews: 955

    Of the 14 teams in this who already had been in the Giro and Spring classics game, Leadbelly and Otoxiep were already first and second on total scores before the Tour started, so their being in the same positions here means the 4 seasons title looks to be a two horse race.

    All these numbers, and more

    Enjoy your rest day: I'll be trying to get the Emerging Riders games through their monthly updates.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #19 on: July 07, 2021, 00:38 »
    Stage 10Bordering on bordures

    The points distribution on sprint stages is developing a pattern.
    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    VAN AERT Wout      50      0
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    BOUHANNI Nacer      25      0
    MATTHEWS Michael      15      0
    MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      10      0
    GREIPEL André      5      3
    SAGAN Peter      3      7
    TURGIS Anthony      2      0
    BOL Cees      1      9

    Green points

    1=      Googolplex/Lecko      86   Cavendish Greipel & Bol
    3      Earns1985      83   Cavendish & Sagan
    4      Kazistuta   /Otoxiep87/Salvarani      81   Cavendish & Bol
    7      Bonimenier/Del1962/Leadbelly/Northerner      80   Cavendish
    11      Pantani_lives      35   Philipsen
    12      Search      5   Greipel
    13      JonEzeitza      4   Sagan & Bol
    14=5 teams 3  Sagan
    19=      3 teams      1   Bol

    Standings
    The remaining 2 Cavendish teams move into the top 10
    1      Otoxiep87      412      0
    2      Lecko      392      1
    3      Bonimenier      388      -1
    4      Salvarani      381      0
    5      Leadbelly      363      0
    6      Googolplex      311      0
    7      Earns1985      305      0
    8      Del1962      282      1
    9      Northerner      274      2
    10      Kazistuta      272      2

    Yellow points
    Some lower GC changes, and a little movement in the green classification, but mainly the points are the stage points

    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    POGACAR Tadej      18      3
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven      10      5
    COLBRELLI Sonny      6      2
    FORMOLO Davide      6      1
    GREIPEL André      5      3
    SAGAN Peter      5      7
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      4      15
    KONRAD Patrick      2      1
    VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael      2      1
    BOL Cees      1      9
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -1      3
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      -1      19
    PACHER Quentin      -1      1
    HAMILTON Lucas      -2      10
    PORTE Richie      -2      1
    ELISSONDE Kenny      -3      1
    WOODS Michael      -4      1
    YATES Simon      -4      1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -6      1
    THOMAS Geraint      -6      25

    1      Earns1985      85
    2      Salvarani      84
    3      Googolplex      79
    3      Lecko      79
    5      Kazistuta      78
    6      Northerner      77
    7      Leadbelly      74
    7      Otoxiep87      74
    9      Bonimenier      73
    10      Del1962      67
    11      Pantani_lives      34
    12      AmisVelo      32
    13      BluesInTheBottle      27
    14      Rote_Laterne      14
    15      Shalgo      13
    16      ZakaFan      8
    17      Mellow_Velo      7
    17      Ray10      7
    17      RedheadDane      7
    20      DJSprtsch      6
    21      Bminchow      5
    21      Koronin      5
    21      Search      5
    24      Rufs      2
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      1
    26      JonEzeitza      0
    27      BlueRoads      -1
    28      Comodoro      -2
    29      Triley36      -3
    30      BikeRacer33      -4
    31      Fivezzz      -5
    31      Vladimir      -5
    33      ArchieBoy      -6
    34      AlienPerformance      -7
    34      BicycleBoy      -7
    36      Laarsland      -8
    36      Titan31      -8
    38      Berflamand      -9
    39      Yellow_Knight      -10
          Collective_Wisdom      -3

    Standings
    Not much change after the main echelon gaps were closed, just a bit of mid-table shuffling.
    1      Leadbelly      1955      0
    2      Otoxiep87      1689      0
    3      Bonimenier      1665      0
    4      Comodoro      1509      0
    5      Fivezzz      1395      0
    6      AmisVelo      1392      1
    7      Laarsland      1369      -1
    8      Shalgo      1348      0
    9      Triley36      1326      0
    10      Titan31      1314      0
    11      Del1962      1272      1
    12      BikeRacer33      1251      -1
    13      Lecko      1249      0
    14      Salvarani      1214      0
    15      Rote_Laterne      1097      0
    16      BluesInTheBottle      1028      0
    17      Berflamand      991      0
    18      Search      960      0
    19      AlienPerformance      930      0
    20      Kazistuta      928      2
    21      Northerner      910      4
    22      Googolplex      893      5
    23      RedheadDane      881      -3
    24      Earns1985      870      5
    25      ArchieBoy      858      -4
    26      DJSprtsch      855      -2
    27      Yellow_Knight      840      -5
    28      Mellow_Velo      828      -2
    29      BlueRoads      788      -1
    30      Vladimir      749      0
    31      Rufs      703      0
    32      BicycleBoy      663      0
    33      Ray10      622      0
    34      JonEzeitza      598      0
    35      Pantani_lives      596      0
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      561      0
    37      Bminchow      500      0
    38      ZakaFan      420      0
    39      Koronin      339      0
          Collective_Wisdom      840   

    We will all feel that a stage like tomorrow should bring some significant change to the GC projection points, but I suspect most of us fear that the stage may be between rare picks in a breakaway and that Pogacar getting 20 more yellow points is about as much as will be seen.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #20 on: July 07, 2021, 23:32 »
    Stage 11  Cavendish wasn't half a wheel in front this time

    VAN AERT Wout      80      0
    ELISSONDE Kenny      50      1
    MOLLEMA Bauke      35      0
    POGACAR Tadej      25      3
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      15      30
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      10      4
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      5      0
    LUTSENKO Alexey      3      6
    KELDERMAN Wilco      2      18
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      1      0

    Green points
    1      Shalgo      90
    2      AmisVelo      40
    3      Rote_Laterne      27
    4      ArchieBoy      25
    4      BluesInTheBottle      25
    4      Mellow_Velo      25
    7      Berflamand      20
    7      Leadbelly      20
    9      Triley36      18
    10      AlienPerformance      17

    Standings
    1      Otoxiep87      429      0
    2      Lecko      409      0
    3      Bonimenier      405      0
    4      Salvarani      396      0
    5      Leadbelly      383      0
    6      Earns1985      320      1
    7      Googolplex      313      -1
    8      Del1962      299      0
    9      Northerner      289      0
    10      Kazistuta      287      0

    Yellow points

    ELISSONDE Kenny      96      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      85      30
    POGACAR Tadej      50      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      40      4
    LUTSENKO Alexey      33      6
    KELDERMAN Wilco      32      18
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      20      3
    MEINTJES Louis      17      2
    MEURISSE Xandro      15      2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      14      3
    PORTE Richie      13      1
    MAJKA Rafal      10      2
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      10      1
    MOHORIC Matej      -13      1
    FORMOLO Davide      -18      1
    YATES Simon      -19      1
    THOMAS Geraint      -24      25
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -33      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      -35      2
    GAUDU David      -60      3
    O'CONNOR Ben      -182      10

    1      Shalgo      246   Elissonde/Uran/Pogacar/Meurisse
    2      Rote_Laterne      171   Uran/Carapaz/Kelderman
    3      Mellow_Velo      163   Uran/Carapaz/Meurisse
    4      AmisVelo      149   Uran/Pogacar
    5      Berflamand      132   Uran/Lutsenko/Kelderman but Thomas
    6      AlienPerformance      119   
    7      BlueRoads      108   
    8      ArchieBoy      101   
    9      DJSprtsch      98   
    10      Earns1985      91   
    11      Lecko      86   
    12      Armchair_Cyclist      84   
    12      BicycleBoy      84   
    12      Yellow_Knight      84   
    15      Del1962      75   
    15      Search      75   
    17      Kazistuta      64   
    17      Northerner      64   
    19      JonEzeitza      58   
    20      Pantani_lives      48   
    21      Salvarani      45   
    22      BluesInTheBottle      44   
    23      ZakaFan      42   
    24      Googolplex      34   
    25      Ray10      33   
    26      Koronin      30   
    27      Rufs      23   
    28      Bminchow      19   
    29      Vladimir      14   
    30      Leadbelly      -27   
    31      Bonimenier      -83   
    31      Laarsland      -83   
    31      Otoxiep87      -83   
    34      Triley36      -85   
    35      Fivezzz      -86   
    36      Titan31      -89   
    37      BikeRacer33      -131   
    38      Comodoro      -152   
    39      RedheadDane      -178   
          Collective_Wisdom      96   

    Standings
    1      Leadbelly      1928      0
    2      Otoxiep87      1606      0
    3      Shalgo      1594      5
    4      Bonimenier      1582      -1
    5      AmisVelo      1541      1
    6      Comodoro      1357      -2
    7      Del1962      1347      4
    8      Lecko      1335      5
    9      Fivezzz      1309      -4
    10      Laarsland      1286      -3
    11      Rote_Laterne      1268      4
    12      Salvarani      1259      2
    13      Triley36      1241      -4
    14      Titan31      1225      -4
    15      Berflamand      1123      2
    16      BikeRacer33      1120      -4
    17      BluesInTheBottle      1072      -1
    18      AlienPerformance      1049      1
    19      Search      1035      -1
    20      Kazistuta      992      0
    21      Mellow_Velo      991      7
    22      Northerner      974      -1
    23      Earns1985      961      1
    24      ArchieBoy      959      1
    25      DJSprtsch      953      1
    26      Googolplex      927      -4
    27      Yellow_Knight      924      0
    28      BlueRoads      896      1
    29      Vladimir      763      1
    30      BicycleBoy      747      2
    31      Rufs      726      0
    32      RedheadDane      703      -9
    33      JonEzeitza      656      1
    34      Ray10      655      -1
    35      Armchair_Cyclist      645      1
    36      Pantani_lives      644      -1
    37      Bminchow      519      0
    38      ZakaFan      462      0
    39      Koronin      369      0
          Collective_Wisdom      936   
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #21 on: July 08, 2021, 20:39 »
    Stage 12  Haven't had a chance to watch it, but from what I read, I missed little.

    POLITT Nils      80      0
    ERVITI OLLO Imanol      50      0
    SWEENY Harrison      35      0
    KÜNG Stefan      25      0
    MEZGEC Luka      15      0
    GREIPEL André      10      3
    THEUNS Edward      5      0
    VAN MOER Brent      3      0
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      2      3
    HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis      1      0

    Green Jersey
    Googolplex, Lecko and Search have Greipel
    BicycleBoy, DJSprtsch and Salvarani have Alaphilippe

    Lecko remains 2nd, Salvarani  stays 4th, Googolplex moves up one place to 6th

    That's all.

    Yellow points
    The GC action was about as notable as the green points in the game.

    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      22      3
    POGACAR Tadej      20      3
    MEZGEC Luka      15      0
    GREIPEL André      10      3
    THEUNS Edward      5      0
    VAN MOER Brent      3      0
    MAJKA Rafal      1      2
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      -1      11
    COLBRELLI Sonny      -1      2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      -1      19
    PACHER Quentin      -1      1
    ELISSONDE Kenny      -2      1
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -2      15
    MOHORIC Matej      -2      1
    THOMAS Geraint      -2      25
    POELS Wout      -6      1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -8      1
    SAGAN Peter      -22      7

    The CQ game equivalent of a nil-nil draw.
    1      BicycleBoy      19
    1      Salvarani      19
    3      Shalgo      18
    4      AmisVelo      17
    5      Googolplex      7
    5      Search      7
    7      Lecko      5
    8      BlueRoads      -1
    8      Pantani_lives      -1
    8      Yellow_Knight      -1
    11      Mellow_Velo      -2
    11      Titan31      -2
    13      AlienPerformance      -3
    13      ArchieBoy      -3
    13      Berflamand      -3
    13      Bonimenier      -3
    13      Laarsland      -3
    13      Leadbelly      -3
    13      Otoxiep87      -3
    13      Ray10      -3
    13      Rote_Laterne      -3
    22      Armchair_Cyclist      -4
    22      BikeRacer33      -4
    22      BluesInTheBottle      -4
    22      Comodoro      -4
    22      Vladimir      -4
    27      Bminchow      -5
    27      Fivezzz      -5
    27      Kazistuta      -5
    27      Northerner      -5
    27      Rufs      -5
    27      Triley36      -5
    33      DJSprtsch      -6
    34      Del1962      -12
    35      Koronin      -22
    35      RedheadDane      -22
    37      Earns1985      -23
    38      JonEzeitza      -24
    39      ZakaFan      -26
          Collective_Wisdom      -5

    Standings
    Podium positions can change even with very few points being won or lost.
    1      Leadbelly      1925      0
    2      Shalgo      1612      1
    3      Otoxiep87      1603      -1
    4      Bonimenier      1579      0
    5      AmisVelo      1558      0
    6      Comodoro      1353      0
    7      Lecko      1340      1
    8      Del1962      1335      -1
    9      Fivezzz      1304      0
    10      Laarsland      1283      0
    11      Salvarani      1278      1
    12      Rote_Laterne      1265      -1
    13      Triley36      1236      0
    14      Titan31      1223      0
    15      Berflamand      1120      0
    16      BikeRacer33      1116      0
    17      BluesInTheBottle      1068      0
    18      AlienPerformance      1046      0
    19      Search      1042      0
    20      Mellow_Velo      989      1
    21      Kazistuta      987      -1
    22      Northerner      969      0
    23      ArchieBoy      956      1
    24      DJSprtsch      947      1
    25      Earns1985      938      -2
    26      Googolplex      934      0
    27      Yellow_Knight      923      0
    28      BlueRoads      895      0
    29      BicycleBoy      766      1
    30      Vladimir      759      -1
    31      Rufs      721      0
    32      RedheadDane      681      0
    33      Ray10      652      1
    34      Pantani_lives      643      2
    35      Armchair_Cyclist      641      0
    36      JonEzeitza      632      -3
    37      Bminchow      514      0
    38      ZakaFan      436      0
    39      Koronin      347      0
          Collective_Wisdom      931   


    Will tomorrow be any more decisive in  the game?  Strongest hints are probably to be found in the weather forecast.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #22 on: July 09, 2021, 19:54 »
    A couple more Cavendish wins and it might be enough to offset some of my riders fading in week three. The big GC gap after Cattaneo also plays somewhat in my favour.

    However as we saw today, a small bit of gravel on a corner could ruin everything in a flash.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #23 on: July 10, 2021, 15:54 »
    Stage 13 No records being equalled in the game

    Sorry it's late: hoping I have the chance to at least post it before the end of today's stage.

    Another almost the same as three times previously:
    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      50      0
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      25      4
    VAN POPPEL Danny      15      0
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      10      2
    LAPORTE Christophe      5      1
    GREIPEL André      3      3
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      2      1
    STUYVEN Jasper      1      0

    Green points
    1      Earns1985      85Cavendish & Laporte
    2=      Googolplex/Lecko      83Cavendish & Greipel
    4      Bonimenier/Del1962/Kazistuta/Leadbelly/Northerne/Otoxiep87/Salvarani      80 Cavendish
    11=      Koronin      35 Garcia & Aranburu
    11=      Pantani_lives      35 Philipsen
    13      Search      28 Garcia and Greipel
    14=      ArchieBoy/Ray10      25 Garcia
    16      Yellow_Knight      10 Aranburu
    17      BikeRacer33      2 Cort

    Standings

    No change in the top ten, and there are 94 points between the last of these Cavendish teams and the first team without him (Pantani Lives)
    1      Otoxiep87      509
    2      Lecko      502
    3      Bonimenier      485
    4      Salvarani      478
    5      Leadbelly      463
    6      Googolplex      406
    7      Earns1985      405
    8      Del1962      379
    9      Northerner      369
    10      Kazistuta      367

    Yellow points

    GC changes only well down the table where point changes are small, but 4 selected riders DNFed yesterday

    CAVENDISH Mark      80      10
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      35      1
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      25      4
    POGACAR Tadej      20      3
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      10      2
    MEURISSE Xandro      8      2
    LAPORTE Christophe      5      1
    MOHORIC Matej      5      1
    THOMAS Geraint      5      25
    POELS Wout      -5      1
    ELISSONDE Kenny      -8      1
    GOGL Michael      -20      2
    HAMILTON Lucas      -20      10
    KLUGE Roger      -20      1
    YATES Simon      -32      1

    1      Lecko      95
    2      Googolplex      90
    3      Kazistuta      89
    3      Northerner      89
    5      Bonimenier      87
    5      Otoxiep87      87
    7      Del1962      86
    8      Earns1985      84
    8      Leadbelly      84
    10      Salvarani      77
    11      Koronin      35
    11      Search      35
    13      ArchieBoy      29
    14      Ray10      26
    15      AmisVelo      23
    16      BluesInTheBottle      22
    17      Pantani_lives      17
    18      Triley36      9
    19      AlienPerformance      7
    19      Comodoro      7
    21      BikeRacer33      5
    21      JonEzeitza      5
    23      Rote_Laterne      3
    23      ZakaFan      3
    25      BicycleBoy      0
    25      Shalgo      0
    27      DJSprtsch      -5
    28      Bminchow      -9
    28      Mellow_Velo      -9
    30      Fivezzz      -11
    30      Rufs      -11
    32      Armchair_Cyclist      -12
    32      Vladimir      -12
    34      Berflamand      -13
    34      Laarsland      -13
    36      Titan31      -15
    37      BlueRoads      -18
    37      Yellow_Knight      -18
    39      RedheadDane      -20
          Collective_Wisdom      9

    Standings
    2000 pt barrier breached!
    1      Leadbelly      2009      0
    2      Otoxiep87      1690      1
    3      Bonimenier      1666      1
    4      Shalgo      1612      -2
    5      AmisVelo      1581      0
    6      Lecko      1435      1
    7      Del1962      1421      1
    8      Comodoro      1360      -2
    9      Salvarani      1355      2
    10      Fivezzz      1293      -1
    11      Laarsland      1270      -1
    12      Rote_Laterne      1268      0
    13      Triley36      1245      0
    14      Titan31      1208      0
    15      BikeRacer33      1121      1
    16      Berflamand      1107      -1
    17      BluesInTheBottle      1090      0
    18      Search      1077      1
    19      Kazistuta      1076      2
    20      Northerner      1058      2
    21      AlienPerformance      1053      -3
    22      Googolplex      1024      4
    23      Earns1985      1022      2
    24      ArchieBoy      985      -1
    25      Mellow_Velo      980      -5
    26      DJSprtsch      942      -2
    27      Yellow_Knight      905      0
    28      BlueRoads      877      0
    29      BicycleBoy      766      0
    30      Vladimir      747      0
    31      Rufs      710      0
    32      Ray10      678      1
    33      RedheadDane      661      -1
    34      Pantani_lives      660      0
    35      JonEzeitza      637      1
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      629      -1
    37      Bminchow      505      0
    38      ZakaFan      439      0
    39      Koronin      382      0
          Collective_Wisdom      940   

    2 km left in today's stage: there will be GC point significance in next update.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #24 on: July 10, 2021, 23:30 »
    Stage 14  Getting near to the Pyrenees, and giving away a podium position.

    MOLLEMA Bauke      80      0
    KONRAD Patrick      50      1 (DJSprtsch)
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      35      15
    CATTANEO Mattia      25      1 (Redhead Dane)
    WOODS Michael      15      1 (Ray10)
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      10      1 (Kazistuta)
    GESBERT Elie      5      0
    PACHER Quentin      3      1 (Archie Boy)
    MEINTJES Louis      2      2 (Blue Roads and Search)
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      1      0

    Green points
    Of the Higuita teams*, only Ray and Kazistuta had another top ten rider
    1=      DJSprtsch      50
    1=      Ray10      50
    3      Kazistuta      45
    4=      Higuita teams      35
    *: Amis Velo, BikeRacer33, Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Comodoro, Fivezzz, Kazistuta, Northerner, Ray 10, Rote Laterne, Rufs, Salvarani, Triley36, Vladimir, Zaka Fan


    Standings
    Of the Cavendish teams that dominate, only Salvarani, Kazistuta and Northerner score in this classification today.  Blues in the Bottle becomes the top non-Cavendish team, but 105 points behind the lowest of these.  Salvarani regains is lead of the first few stages.
    1      Salvarani      513      3
    2      Otoxiep87      509      -1
    3      Lecko      502      -1
    4      Bonimenier      485      -1
    5      Leadbelly      463      0
    6      Kazistuta      412      4
    7      Googolplex      406      -1
    8      Earns1985      405      -1
    9      Northerner      404      0
    10      Del1962      379      -2

    Yellow points

    Guillaume Martin gained GC 270 GC points, but nobody had him, so the main story will be the points lost by those he overtook. Polka dot points also got a bit of a shake up.

    WOODS Michael      68      1
    KONRAD Patrick      58      1
    CATTANEO Mattia      45      1
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      41      15
    POGACAR Tadej      20      3
    MEINTJES Louis      18      2
    PACHER Quentin      11      1
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      10      1
    POELS Wout      10      1
    MEURISSE Xandro      -11      2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -12      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -20      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      -30      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -30      18
    LUTSENKO Alexey      -30      6
    O'CONNOR Ben      -30      10
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -38      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      -70      30



    To a large extent, the more high scoring riders you have in your team, the worse you did today.
    1      Ray10      87
    2      BluesInTheBottle      61
    3      RedheadDane      15
    4      ZakaFan      14
    5      Bminchow      9
    6      AmisVelo      -5
    7      DJSprtsch      -14
    8      Kazistuta      -23
    9      Pantani_lives      -29
    10      Koronin      -30
    11      Vladimir      -32
    12      Northerner      -33
    13      Rufs      -38
    14      Salvarani      -39
    15      BikeRacer33      -48
    16      BlueRoads      -51
    17      Googolplex      -54
    18      Shalgo      -59
    19      Earns1985      -68
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      -70
    21      JonEzeitza      -75
    22      BicycleBoy      -85
    22      Rote_Laterne      -85
    24      Search      -91
    25      Fivezzz      -93
    25      Triley36      -93
    27      ArchieBoy      -94
    27      Comodoro      -94
    29      Yellow_Knight      -104
    30      Mellow_Velo      -106
    31      Lecko      -109
    32      AlienPerformance      -124
    33      Berflamand      -134
    33      Bonimenier      -134
    33      Laarsland      -134
    33      Otoxiep87      -134
    37      Titan31      -135
    38      Del1962      -140
    39      Leadbelly      -183
          Collective_Wisdom      -63
    If, as many suspect, Martin is unable to maintain his GC spot, many of these changes will be reversed.

    Standings
    Even though Leadbelly had the lowest score today, he still has a substantial lead.
    1      Leadbelly      1826      0
    2      AmisVelo      1576      3
    3      Otoxiep87      1556      -1
    4      Shalgo      1553      0
    5      Bonimenier      1532      -2
    6      Lecko      1326      0
    7      Salvarani      1316      2
    8      Del1962      1281      -1
    9      Comodoro      1266      -1
    10      Fivezzz      1200      0
    11      Rote_Laterne      1183      1
    12      Triley36      1152      1
    13      BluesInTheBottle      1151      4
    14      Laarsland      1136      -3
    15      BikeRacer33      1073      0
    15      Titan31      1073      -1
    17      Kazistuta      1053      2
    18      Northerner      1025      2
    19      Search      986      -1
    20      Berflamand      973      -4
    21      Googolplex      970      1
    22      Earns1985      954      1
    23      AlienPerformance      929      -2
    24      DJSprtsch      928      2
    25      ArchieBoy      891      -1
    26      Mellow_Velo      874      -1
    27      BlueRoads      826      1
    28      Yellow_Knight      801      -1
    29      Ray10      765      3
    30      Vladimir      715      0
    31      BicycleBoy      681      -2
    32      RedheadDane      676      1
    33      Rufs      672      -2
    34      Pantani_lives      631      0
    35      JonEzeitza      562      0
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      559      0
    37      Bminchow      514      0
    38      ZakaFan      453      0
    39      Koronin      352      0
          Collective_Wisdom      877   

    I haven't mentioned it for quite a few stages:  VR 1158,  CN   966

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #25 on: July 12, 2021, 00:25 »
    Stage 15 Lets pop in to Andorra to do some shopping on the day off

    KUSS Sepp      80      1
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      50      0
    POELS Wout      35      1
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      25      0
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      15      0
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      10      1
    GAUDU David      5      3
    MARTIN Daniel      3      0
    BONNAMOUR Franck      2      0
    PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien      1      0

    Green points
    1      Triley36      80
    2      DJSprtsch      35
    3      Del1962      10
    4=      Comodoro/Salvarani/Vladimir      5

    Two of today's scorers are in the top ten: Salvarani stays 1st, Del stays 10th.

    Yellow points
    Guillaume Martin returned to the ninth place he had been in very rapidly, so much of this is simply undoing yesterday's changes.
    POELS Wout      91      1
    KUSS Sepp      82      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      70      30
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      30      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      30      18
    LUTSENKO Alexey      30      6
    O'CONNOR Ben      30      10
    POGACAR Tadej      25      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      20      3
    GAUDU David      15      3
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      12      3
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      -10      15
    KONRAD Patrick      -10      1
    MAJKA Rafal      -10      2
    MEINTJES Louis      -10      2
    FORMOLO Davide      -12      1
    CATTANEO Mattia      -20      1
    WOODS Michael      -28      1

    1      Triley36      204
    2      Leadbelly      182
    3      DJSprtsch      163
    4      Comodoro      138
    5      Titan31      133
    6      Berflamand      132
    6      Bonimenier      132
    6      Laarsland      132
    6      Otoxiep87      132
    10      AlienPerformance      122
    10      Fivezzz      122
    12      Rote_Laterne      117
    13      Lecko      107
    14      Del1962      104
    15      ArchieBoy      98
    16      Shalgo      95
    17      Mellow_Velo      94
    18      Yellow_Knight      93
    19      Search      88
    20      Salvarani      86
    21      BicycleBoy      84
    22      AmisVelo      82
    23      BikeRacer33      77
    24      JonEzeitza      73
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      69
    25      Earns1985      69
    27      BlueRoads      68
    28      Vladimir      67
    29      Kazistuta      62
    29      Northerner      62
    31      Rufs      58
    32      Googolplex      52
    33      Koronin      37
    34      Pantani_lives      29
    35      Bminchow      20
    36      ZakaFan      18
    37      BluesInTheBottle      15
    38      RedheadDane      10
    39      Ray10      -21
          Collective_Wisdom      92

    Standings
    LB was second on the day, and extends his lead even more, while Amis Velo's trip to the putative podium was as short lived as Martin's.
    1      Leadbelly      2008      0
    2      Otoxiep87      1688      1
    3      Bonimenier      1664      2
    4      AmisVelo      1658      -2
    5      Shalgo      1648      -1
    6      Lecko      1433      0
    7      Comodoro      1404      2
    8      Salvarani      1402      -1
    9      Del1962      1385      -1
    10      Triley36      1356      2
    11      Fivezzz      1322      -1
    12      Rote_Laterne      1300      -1
    13      Laarsland      1268      1
    14      Titan31      1206      1
    15      BluesInTheBottle      1166      -2
    16      BikeRacer33      1150      -1
    17      Kazistuta      1115      0
    18      Berflamand      1105      2
    19      DJSprtsch      1091      5
    20      Northerner      1087      -2
    21      Search      1074      -2
    22      AlienPerformance      1051      1
    23      Earns1985      1023      -1
    24      Googolplex      1022      -3
    25      ArchieBoy      989      0
    26      Mellow_Velo      968      0
    27      BlueRoads      894      0
    27      Yellow_Knight      894      1
    29      Vladimir      782      1
    30      BicycleBoy      765      1
    31      Ray10      744      -2
    32      Rufs      730      1
    33      RedheadDane      686      -1
    34      Pantani_lives      660      0
    35      JonEzeitza      635      0
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      628      0
    37      Bminchow      534      0
    38      ZakaFan      471      0
    39      Koronin      389      0
          Collective_Wisdom      969   

    I think I'll be able to get some analysis of why we are doing well or badly for rest day tomorrow.
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #26 on: July 13, 2021, 00:49 »
    Rest Day 2  15 stages done, 6 to go

    Green point scorers (> 25 stage points, only riders on our teams)

    CAVENDISH Mark      320      10 teams
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      205      1
    POGACAR Tadej      200      3
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      125      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      107      3
    CATTANEO Mattia      80      1
    KUSS Sepp      80      1
    MOHORIC Matej      80      1
    O'CONNOR Ben      80      10
    KONRAD Patrick      55      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      50      2
    ELISSONDE Kenny      50      1
    POELS Wout      50      1
    WOODS Michael      50      1
    KELDERMAN Wilco      42      18
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      41      15
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      37      1
    SAGAN Peter      33      7
    HAIG Jack      26   17

    Not just the top ten this time.  Cavendish alone has more green points than any team that omits him, so the other main riders on the top ten, Cavendish based teams:
    1      Salvarani      518   Alaphilippe/Kelderman/Higuita
    2      Otoxiep87      509   O'Connor/Kelderman/Haig
    3      Lecko      502   Mohoric/Kelderman
    4      Bonimenier      485   O'Connor/Kelderman/Haig
    5      Leadbelly      463   O'Connor/Kelderman
    6      Kazistuta      412   Higuita
    7      Googolplex      406   Kelderman
    8      Earns1985      405   Sagan/Haig
    9      Northerner      404   Higuita/Haig
    10      Del1962      389   Kelderman
    11      BluesInTheBottle      274   
    12      Pantani_lives      273   
    13      Shalgo      266   
    14      DJSprtsch      261   
    15      AmisVelo      257   
    16      Triley36      248   
    17      BikeRacer33      207   
    18      Fivezzz      206   
    19      RedheadDane      193   
    20      Comodoro      190   
    21      Laarsland      189   
    22      Ray10      155   
    22      Search      155   
    24      BlueRoads      143   
    25      Titan31      139   
    26      Rufs      134   
    27      BicycleBoy      124   
    28      Rote_Laterne      114   
    29      ArchieBoy      110   
    29      Bminchow      110   
    31      ZakaFan      104   
    32      JonEzeitza      101   
    33      Berflamand      89   
    34      AlienPerformance      85   
    35      Yellow_Knight      79   
    36      Koronin      72   
    37      Vladimir      68   
    38      Mellow_Velo      57   
    39      Armchair_Cyclist      43   
          Collective_Wisdom      126   

    Yellow points
    The riders in three figures that are on any of our teams.

    POGACAR Tadej      975      3 teams
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      466      30
    CAVENDISH Mark      420      10
    O'CONNOR Ben      373      10
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      335      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      302      18
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      260      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      245      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      234      6
    CATTANEO Mattia      220      1
    POELS Wout      218      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      206      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      160      3
    WOODS Michael      159      1
    GAUDU David      120      3
    ELISSONDE Kenny      117      1
    KONRAD Patrick      108      1
    MOHORIC Matej      105      1
    KUSS Sepp      102      1
    MEINTJES Louis      102      2

    And those from that list on the top ten in the main game:
    1      Leadbelly      2008   Uran/Cavendish/O'Connor/Kelderman/Lutsenko/Bilbao
    2      Otoxiep87      1688   Uran/Cavendish/O'Connor/Kelderman
    3      Bonimenier      1664   Uran/Cavendish/O'Connor/Kelderman
    4      AmisVelo      1658   Pogacar/Uran
    5      Shalgo      1648   Pogacar/Uran/Elissonde
    6      Lecko      1433   Uran/Cavendish/Kelderman/Mohoric
    7      Comodoro      1404   Uran/O'Connor/Kelderman/Gaudu
    8      Salvarani      1402   Uran/Cavendish/Alaphilippe/Gaudu
    9      Del1962      1385   Uran/Cavendish/Kelderman
    10      Triley36      1356   Uran/O'Connor/Lutsenko

    The teams in first, second and fourth are all VeloRooms teams; all but one of the bottom 12 teams (barring me: I'm neutral in this) are from Cycling News.
    So  VeloRooms 1256, Cycling News 1050

    Riders out of the race (not counting any rest day withdrawals: I haven't read much race news today)
    3:  Armchair_Cyclist, BlueRoads, BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, Earns1985, JonEzeitza, Koronin, Pantani_lives, RedheadDane, Rufs, ZakaFan
    2: Berflamand, BicycleBoy, Fivezzz, Laarsland, Mellow_Velo, Northerner, Titan31 (and Collective Wisdom)
    1:  AlienPerformance, AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, Bonimenier, Comodoro, DJSprtsch, Googolplex, Kazistuta, Otoxiep87, Ray10, Rote_Laterne, Search, Shalgo, Triley36, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight
    0: BikeRacer33, Del1962, Leadbelly, Lecko, Salvarani

    Spreadsheet (this is a dynamic table, not a permanent snapshot to Rest Day 2: in 24 hours time it will have data to stage 16, and not all of these numbers will be verified by the spreadsheet.)
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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #27 on: July 14, 2021, 00:30 »
    Stage 16 These breakaways do little for most of our scores.

    KONRAD Patrick      80      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      50      2
    MATTHEWS Michael      35      0
    PERICHON Pierre-Luc      25      0
    BONNAMOUR Franck      15      0
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      10      2
    SKUJINS Toms      5      1
    BAKELANTS Jan      3      0
    GAUDU David      2      3
    ROTA Lorenzo      1      0

    Green points
    No-one had more than one of the top ten, so you don't need me to tell you which managers had which riders.

    1      DJSprtsch      80
    2      Rufs      50
    2      Search      50
    4      Koronin      10
    4      Yellow_Knight      10
    6      ZakaFan      5
    7      Comodoro      2
    7      Salvarani      2
    7      Vladimir      2

    Salvarani was top anyway, and no-one else in the top ten in this classification, but DJS is now the closest to it.


    Yellow points
    The main GC guys defeated the rest of the peloton, but not each other, so little change again.

    KONRAD Patrick      96      1
    COLBRELLI Sonny      67      2
    GAUDU David      32      3
    POGACAR Tadej      20      3
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      10      2
    MEURISSE Xandro      5      2
    SKUJINS Toms      5      1
    POELS Wout      -6      1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian      -8      3
    WOODS Michael      -8      1
    CATTANEO Mattia      -10      1
    PHILIPSEN Jasper      -10      1

    1      DJSprtsch      82
    2      Search      66
    3      Rufs      64
    4      Comodoro      29
    4      Vladimir      29
    6      Shalgo      25
    7      Salvarani      22
    8      BluesInTheBottle      18
    9      AmisVelo      16
    10      Koronin      9
    11      Yellow_Knight      8
    12      Mellow_Velo      4
    12      ZakaFan      4
    14      BlueRoads      1
    15      AlienPerformance      0
    15      Berflamand      0
    15      Bonimenier      0
    15      Earns1985      0
    15      Googolplex      0
    15      Laarsland      0
    15      Lecko      0
    15      Otoxiep87      0
    23      ArchieBoy      -1
    23      BikeRacer33      -1
    23      JonEzeitza      -1
    23      Leadbelly      -1
    23      Titan31      -1
    28      Armchair_Cyclist      -2
    28      Del1962      -2
    28      Fivezzz      -2
    28      Kazistuta      -2
    28      Northerner      -2
    33      Triley36      -3
    34      Bminchow      -4
    34      Rote_Laterne      -4
    36      Ray10      -6
    37      BicycleBoy      -9
    37      Pantani_lives      -9
    39      RedheadDane      -10
          Collective_Wisdom      -2

    Standings
    When nothing else effects the leading scores much, there is always the daily yellow jersey bonus, which moves the two better performing Pogacar teams up within the top five. 

    1      Leadbelly      2007      0
    2      Otoxiep87      1688      0
    3      AmisVelo      1674      1
    4      Shalgo      1673      1
    5      Bonimenier      1664      -2
    6      Comodoro      1433      1
    6      Lecko      1433      0
    8      Salvarani      1424      0
    9      Del1962      1383      0
    10      Triley36      1353      0
    11      Fivezzz      1320      0
    12      Rote_Laterne      1296      0
    13      Laarsland      1268      0
    14      Titan31      1205      0
    15      BluesInTheBottle      1184      0
    16      DJSprtsch      1173      3
    17      BikeRacer33      1149      -1
    18      Search      1140      3
    19      Kazistuta      1113      -2
    20      Berflamand      1105      -2
    21      Northerner      1085      -1
    22      AlienPerformance      1051      0
    23      Earns1985      1023      0
    24      Googolplex      1022      0
    25      ArchieBoy      988      0
    26      Mellow_Velo      972      0
    27      Yellow_Knight      902      0
    28      BlueRoads      895      -1
    29      Vladimir      811      0
    30      Rufs      794      2
    31      BicycleBoy      756      -1
    32      Ray10      738      -1
    33      RedheadDane      676      0
    34      Pantani_lives      651      0
    35      JonEzeitza      634      0
    36      Armchair_Cyclist      626      0
    37      Bminchow      530      0
    38      ZakaFan      475      0
    39      Koronin      398      0
          Collective_Wisdom      967   

    There are not many stages left that could make a difference: tomorrow is one of them.


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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #28 on: July 15, 2021, 00:15 »
    Stage 17  Finally, the main contestants make themselves visible

    POGACAR Tadej      80      3
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      50      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      35      4
    GAUDU David      25      3
    O'CONNOR Ben      15      10
    KELDERMAN Wilco      10      18
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      5      3
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      3      15
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      2      30
    TEUNS Dylan      1      0

    Green points

    1      AmisVelo      85   Pogacar/Higuita/Uran
    2      BluesInTheBottle      83   Pogacar/Higuita
    3      Shalgo      82   Pogacar/Uran
    4      Comodoro      55   Gaudu/O'Connor/Kelderman/Higuita/Uran
    5      Rote_Laterne      50   Carapaz/Kelderman/Higuita/Uran
    6      Ray10      38   Carapaz/Higuita
    7=      ArchieBoy/Mellow_Velo      37   Carapaz/Uran
    9      Leadbelly      32   O'Connor/Kelderman/Bilbao/Uran
    10=      Fivezzz=      30   O'Connor/Kelderman/Higuita/Uran
    10=      =Salvarani/Vladimir      30   Gaudu/Higuita/Uran

    Standings
    1      Salvarani      550      0
    2      Otoxiep87      536      0
    3      Lecko      514      0
    4      Bonimenier      512      0
    5      Leadbelly      495      0
    6      Googolplex      421      1
    7      Kazistuta      417      -1
    8      Northerner      409      1
    9      Earns1985      407      -1
    10      Del1962      401      0

    Yellow points

    This rise to second has a more permanent feel about it.
    POGACAR Tadej      145      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      96      4
    GAUDU David      25      3
    O'CONNOR Ben      15      10
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      13      15
    KUSS Sepp      12      1
    PACHER Quentin      12      1
    POELS Wout      12      1
    KELDERMAN Wilco      10      18
    MAJKA Rafal      10      2
    MEURISSE Xandro      10      2
    KONRAD Patrick      -10      1
    ELISSONDE Kenny      -20      1
    WOODS Michael      -21      1
    LUTSENKO Alexey      -30      6
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven      -49      5
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      -128      30

    Uran, as the most popular rider in the game, gives lots of negative scores through his fall from the podium.
    1      BluesInTheBottle      158
    2      Ray10      87
    3      Googolplex      29
    4      Pantani_lives      18
    5      BikeRacer33      16
    6      RedheadDane      15
    7      Shalgo      7
    8      ZakaFan      -2
    9      AmisVelo      -12
    9      Bminchow      -12
    11      ArchieBoy      -14
    12      Koronin      -34
    13      Rote_Laterne      -51
    14      Mellow_Velo      -56
    15      Comodoro      -59
    16      Vladimir      -66
    17      Fivezzz      -76
    18      Salvarani      -86
    19      Bonimenier      -89
    19      Laarsland      -89
    19      Otoxiep87      -89
    22      Del1962      -91
    23      Titan31      -97
    24      AlienPerformance      -99
    25      Kazistuta      -101
    25      Lecko      -101
    25      Northerner      -101
    28      Yellow_Knight      -102
    29      Triley36      -104
    30      Rufs      -113
    31      Leadbelly      -115
    32      Search      -116
    33      BicycleBoy      -118
    34      Earns1985      -121
    35      JonEzeitza      -122
    36      BlueRoads      -125
    37      DJSprtsch      -129
    38      Berflamand      -134
    39      Armchair_Cyclist      -156
          Collective_Wisdom      -91


    Standings

    The main beneficiary of the day Is Blues in the Bottle, through having Pogacar but not Uran, and the other two Pogacar teams are on the podium.
    1      Leadbelly      1892      0
    2      Shalgo      1680      2
    3      AmisVelo      1662      0
    4      Otoxiep87      1599      -2
    5      Bonimenier      1575      0
    6      Comodoro      1374      0
    7      BluesInTheBottle      1342      8
    8      Salvarani      1338      0
    9      Lecko      1332      -3
    10      Del1962      1292      -1
    11      Triley36      1249      -1
    12      Rote_Laterne      1245      0
    13      Fivezzz      1244      -2
    14      Laarsland      1179      -1
    15      BikeRacer33      1165      2
    16      Titan31      1108      -2
    17      Googolplex      1051      7
    18      DJSprtsch      1044      -2
    19      Search      1024      -1
    20      Kazistuta      1012      -1
    21      Northerner      984      0
    22      ArchieBoy      974      3
    23      Berflamand      971      -3
    24      AlienPerformance      952      -2
    25      Mellow_Velo      916      1
    26      Earns1985      902      -3
    27      Ray10      825      5
    28      Yellow_Knight      800      -1
    29      BlueRoads      770      -1
    30      Vladimir      745      -1
    31      RedheadDane      691      2
    32      Rufs      681      -2
    33      Pantani_lives      669      1
    34      BicycleBoy      638      -3
    35      Bminchow      518      2
    36      JonEzeitza      512      -1
    37      ZakaFan      473      1
    38      Armchair_Cyclist      470      -2
    39      Koronin      364      0
          Collective_Wisdom      876   

    More of the same tomorrow?

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    Re: 2021 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #29 on: July 15, 2021, 19:55 »
    Stage 18  They have now climbed every mountain

    I suggested yesterday, "More of the same tomorrow?"  More so than ever before, as this is apparently the first time in tour history that the top three on the stage has been the same twice in a row.

    POGACAR Tadej      80      3
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      50      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      35      4
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      25      0
    MARTIN Daniel      15      0
    KUSS Sepp      10      1
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      5      15
    O'CONNOR Ben      3      10
    KELDERMAN Wilco      2      18
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1      0

    Green points
    1=      AmisVelo/BluesInTheBottle      85Pogacar/Higuita
    3      Shalgo      80 Pogacar
    4      Rote_Laterne      42 Carapaz/Higuita/Kelderman
    5      Ray10      40Carapaz/Higuita
    6=      ArchieBoy/Mellow_Velo      35 Carapaz
    8      Triley36      18 Kuss/Higuita/O'Connor
    9=      BikeRacer33/Comodoro/Fivezzz      10 Higuita/O'Connor/Kelderman

    And the top ten, for the first time in many stages, is not the ten Cavendish teams, as all three Pogacar teams break in to the frame.
    1      Salvarani      555      0
    2      Otoxiep87      541      0
    3      Bonimenier      517      1
    4      Lecko      516      -1
    5      Leadbelly      500      0
    6      BluesInTheBottle      442      5
    7      Shalgo      428      5
    8      AmisVelo      427      6
    9      Googolplex      423      -3
    10      Kazistuta      422      -3

    Yellow points
    It's not only the top three that makes this similar to yesterday, it is also Uran losing a lot of points for a lot of teams and Pogacar moving up the GPM table.

    POGACAR Tadej      130      3
    VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas      76      0
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      55      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      39      4
    O'CONNOR Ben      33      10
    KELDERMAN Wilco      32      18
    LUTSENKO Alexey      30      6
    MARTIN Daniel      25      0
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      20      3
    MARTIN Guillaume      20      0
    KUSS Sepp      18      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      10      11
    MEINTJES Louis      10      2
    MAJKA Rafal      7      2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      5      15
    FORMOLO Davide      -6      1
    PORTE Richie      -11      1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      -23      1
    POELS Wout      -30      1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto      -160      30

    9 teams didn't include Uran, 9 teams get a positive score today. Cause and effect epitomised.

    1      BluesInTheBottle      135
    2      BikeRacer33      89
    3      Googolplex      50
    4      Ray10      48
    5      ZakaFan      43
    6      Bminchow      35
    7      Koronin      34
    8      RedheadDane      33
    9      Pantani_lives      30
    10      AmisVelo      -15
    11      Shalgo      -32
    12      Leadbelly      -35
    13      Rote_Laterne      -74
    14      Triley36      -76
    15      Comodoro      -89
    16      Fivezzz      -92
    17      Titan31      -95
    18      Bonimenier      -97
    18      Laarsland      -97
    18      Otoxiep87      -97
    21      Berflamand      -100
    22      AlienPerformance      -110
    23      Mellow_Velo      -111
    24      Search      -121
    24      Yellow_Knight      -121
    26      ArchieBoy      -123
    27      Lecko      -126
    28      Del1962      -143
    29      Salvarani      -148
    30      Vladimir      -149
    31      Earns1985      -150
    32      Armchair_Cyclist      -152
    33      BicycleBoy      -154
    34      BlueRoads      -156
    35      Kazistuta      -157
    35      Northerner      -157
    37      Rufs      -158
    38      JonEzeitza      -160
    39      DJSprtsch      -196
          Collective_Wisdom      -125


    Standings
    Now that Cavendish is no longer at great risk of being eliminated by the watch, Leadbelly should be safe, but the two teams chasing still have a confident 40 yellow points and a good haul from the TT to come, so it will probably need Cavendish to get two clear of Merckx for anyone else to reach the podium.  Only 1 point separates those teams (Elissonde, Meurisse, Chevalier and Froome bringing one point more than McNulty, Buchmann and Higuita).

    1      Leadbelly      1857      0
    2      Shalgo      1648      0
    3      AmisVelo      1647      0
    4      Otoxiep87      1502      0
    5      Bonimenier      1478      0
    6      BluesInTheBottle      1477      1
    7      Comodoro      1285      -1
    8      BikeRacer33      1254      7
    9      Lecko      1206      0
    10      Salvarani      1190      -2
    11      Triley36      1173      0
    12      Rote_Laterne      1171      0
    13      Fivezzz      1152      0
    14      Del1962      1149      -4
    15      Googolplex      1101      2
    16      Laarsland      1082      -2
    17      Titan31      1013      -1
    18      Search      903      1
    19      Ray10      873      8
    20      Berflamand      871      3
    21      Kazistuta      855      -1
    22      ArchieBoy      851      0
    23      DJSprtsch      848      -5
    24      AlienPerformance      842      0
    25      Northerner      827      -4
    26      Mellow_Velo      805      -1
    27      Earns1985      752      -1
    28      RedheadDane      724      3
    29      Pantani_lives      699      4
    30      Yellow_Knight      679      -2
    31      BlueRoads      614      -2
    32      Vladimir      596      -2
    33      Bminchow      553      2
    34      Rufs      523      -2
    35      ZakaFan      516      2
    36      BicycleBoy      484      -2
    37      Koronin      398      2
    38      JonEzeitza      352      -2
    39      Armchair_Cyclist      318      -1
          Collective_Wisdom      751   

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