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The small world of World Tour team staff
« on: July 27, 2012, 14:39 »
Much has been made these past few days of certain members of team staff and their questionable connections, as a result of the talking up of Leinders and now Bartalucci at Sky.

Sky's earlier, self-proclaimed clean credentials brought about this staffing polemic and for that reason perhaps the team deserves more attention than others. However, that's not what this thread is about. I wanted to look at a wider perspective to find out what similar sorts of questions other teams might be expected to answer if we were to put the same spotlight on them.

Using Dopeology.org, published sources and the teams' own websites, I quickly examined all of the UCI World Tour licence holders to find out what, if any, questionable connections they might have among their staff, from any point in their history in cycling.

The results were interesting. Only three teams - AG2R, Garmin and Vacansoleil - had no proven connections to any doping-related activities that I could find. Up next, I found that BMC had only one person with an uncorroborated allegation and Rabobank's single connection consisted of a violation that was subsequently cleared. These are mentioned but do not count to the total.

Feel free to add any that I missed.

Here are the details:

TeamPeopleConnections
AG2R None 0
Astana Stangelj, Andreazzoli 2
BMC Viane (publicly alleged) 0
Euskaltel Gonzalez de Galdeano 1
FDJ Madiot, Guillaume (publicly alleged) 1
Garmin Sharp* None 0
Katusha Henn, Chiesa, Zabel, Mikhailov, Besnati 5
Lampre Saronni, Bontempi, Lerici, Maini, Piovani, Guardascione, Della Torre 7
Liquigas Magni, Volpi, Scirea, Settembrini 4
Lotto Belisol Sergeant, Aerts 2
Movistar Arrieta, Ledanois, Hoyos 3
OPQS Bramati, Holm, Steels, Van Slycke, Ibarguren, Vanmol, Aldag, Planckaert 8
Orica GreenEdge* Stephens, White 2
Rabobank Dekker (cleared) 0
RadioShack Nissan Trek Bruyneel, Andersen, Gallopin A, Celaya 4
Sky Leinders, Bartalucci, Yates (cleared) 2
Saxo Bank Tinkoff Bank Riis, Guidi 2
Vacansoleil DCM None 0

* Very little info on the team website, so this should be taken as tbc.
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    This list is current right?

    Zabel worked with Lotto last year as part of Canyon hence i guess his move to Katusha with Canyon.

    Is worth another list that shows in an another colour where these people were previously?

    By the way if you are counting DSs, ie Bruyneel, add Sean Yates to Sky.
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    Riis?

    :fp Yes, of course. How on earth did I miss that?

    This list is just a snapshot of now, hence Zabel is shown as Katusha per that team's website. And Bruyneel is already there.

    Sean Yates was never sanctioned: his B sample was negative. Unless you can show me a source that says otherwise. ;) So he can be listed for info purposes like Dekker but he does not count.
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    Sean Yates was never sanctioned: his B sample was negative. Unless you can show me a source that says otherwise. ;) So he can be listed for info purposes like Dekker but he does not count.


    Of course you are correct about Yates. :tu 
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    Of course you are correct about Yates. :tu

    As you know but others may not, B sample negatives are as rare as rocking horse poop (though not unheard of) and Yates' is the earliest I have on record.

    Funny how Fabrizio Guidi, one of those golden few who returned a B negative, is also on the list above. ;D In Guidi's case however, he did other stuff to offset this stroke of luck / terrible mistake, so he counts.

    We do not know what banned substance Yates' A result contained and I don't suppose it was ever reported. That lack of specifics - almost unthinkable today - is very typical of the era: even the press didn't take it seriously.
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    Re: The small world of World Tour team staff
    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 13:01 »
    Dutch tabloid AD picks up on Ibarguren, Mikhailov, Besnati, Klimaschka and Andreazzoli

    Article has the feel of being started but left unfinished. ;)

    Thanks to jsg for the link.
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    Re: The small world of World Tour team staff
    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 13:05 »
    Having just come across this list, what about Max Testa at BMC?

    I remember seeing his name in the Armstrong/USADA files, and finding it amusing (Dr Testa? No, only me?), and then being surprised to see him speaking about (as I recall) Cadel's condition towards the end of last season.
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    Re: The small world of World Tour team staff
    « Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 13:07 »
    Having just come across this list, what about Max Testa at BMC?

    I remember seeing his name in the Armstrong/USADA files, and finding it amusing (Dr Testa? No, only me?), and then being surprised to see him speaking about (as I recall) Cadel's condition towards the end of last season.

    I don't think - please correct if you know otherwise - there is anything concrete about Testa. Just rumours, the weight of association and snippets of hearsay.
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    Re: The small world of World Tour team staff
    « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 13:12 »
    I don't think - please correct if you know otherwise - there is anything concrete about Testa. Just rumours, the weight of association and snippets of hearsay.

    No, I don't know anything beyond that - it is a heavy weight of association, but in terms of actual admissible evidence I don't know. I just wish I could remember the context of his mention in the USADA documents
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